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To: Dale Baker who wrote (181293)2/4/2012 6:22:36 PM
From: Steve Lokness  Respond to of 542200
 
<<<Zealots who betray their own preachings in practice are the worst>>>

Why does it have to be a zealot? Why are they the worst? Ted Turner is about the last person in the world who needs SS - but he still says he is entitled to it and he's going to damn well take it. My point is - which was explained in depth in the link I posted - is you can remain philosophically against something and still take the advantage of that - ESPECIALLY if you've paid into it. Who amongst us doesn't do that?

In any case - again reading from the link - it wasn't Ayn who accepted but her caregiver when she was of such an age she wasn't much into making the decisions.

Now, if you can show me where she took advantage of a social program - say food stamps - THAT she was entitled to but didn't pay individually into, your example would make more sense to me.

WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT;
SS as the people on this thread know is NOT broke. It has (had before the tax relief) a surplus way into the 2030's. A surplus! It is not broke despite what many on the right claim. But by mingling this account - something Obama has not only gone along with but has encouraged - with the general fund it is losing the ability to consider it a separate issue. HUGE mistake. So to be clear, your SS payment is now being gobbled up to fight wars in the ME. The argument that this is a separate account is being eroded as consistently the separability of these accounts is diminished. Looks to me that wittingly or unwittingly democrats have made a huge blunder playing right into the republican hands.