Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (123456)	2/6/2012 4:22:00 PM
From: TideGlider	5 Recommendations Respond to of 224744

Have you tried Tarot cards? I heard you can get great answers there too.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (123456)	2/6/2012 5:07:29 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	4 Recommendations Respond to of 224744

Go ahead Ken, bet a huge bundle on Obama getting re-elected - jump right into that honey trap.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (123456)	2/6/2012 5:34:21 PM
From: longnshort	4 Recommendations Respond to of 224744

Sharpton: Obama needs to dictate to the Catholic Church to maintain separation of church and state, or something posted at 11:10 am on February 6, 2012 by Ed Morrissey Someone has a very confused idea about the separation of church and state, and surprisingly, it’s the Reverend in this Morning Joe panel today. Working off of Peggy Noonan’s Wall Street Journal column from Saturday, Al Sharpton argues that Barack Obama had to dictate to the Catholic Church to violate its religious tenets in order to … preserve the separation of church and state? Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy Rev. Al Sharpton: No, I think you have to have the reverse argument, and that is if I want to seek employment and have employment in a church but that I disagree with the dogma and theology of the church, do I have the right to be protected by law? And I think that what the Obama administration is saying that you do not have to follow the tenets of a church organization to be an employee of a church. Scarborough: Do you think this is a good decision? Sharpton: If we are going to have a separation of church and state, we’re going to have a separation of church and state. Whether I would personally agree with the decision or not, the question is do I have a right to make that law? This is an absurd perversion of the concept of separation of church and state. When Thomas Jefferson wrote that (it’s not found in American law), he meant that the church should not dictate to the State on law — and that the state should not dictate to the church on doctrine. Jefferson wanted to avoid establishing a state religion run by Parliament that had the power to manipulate the spiritual for the sake of the secular. That is exactly what Obama proposes to do in this case: dictate to the Catholic Church and its organizations that its doctrine on contraception, abortion, and sterilization are incorrect and force them to fund those practices that violate their most deeply held beliefs on the sanctity of life, all to satisfy Obama’s political needs. Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski aren’t buying Sharpton’s spin: Mika Brzezinski: Obviously they’re getting money from the government. Having said that, the Catholic religion believes certain things; they believe it to be fact. And so you’re asking them not to be Catholic if you impose these regulations on them. Scarborough: You have a lot of Catholics who are pro-choice who were offended by this decision…The very idea that a centralized government, a centralized state can reach out and tell the church…Kathleen Parker put it this way “You have to forfeit your most fundamental beliefs or face prohibitive penalties or close hospitals, schools, charities, etc…” I must say it’s a staggering, staggering decision by HHS…[to Mika] You’re a Catholic. What are your thoughts? Brzezinski: I think it’s wrong; I agree with you. And I think it was an overstep. The Catholic Church’s hospitals get money from the government, but only for caring for the otherwise indigent. If that’s the basis of the intervention, then Catholic hospitals will likely close their doors. The bishops will not allow for abortions and sterilizations that violate the very mission on which those hospitals are based — the protection and promotion of sacred human life. That will only make matters worse for the poor, and also for the government that would have to fill the very large gap left by the closing of hundreds of hospitals and clinics. If one disagrees with the Catholic Church’s doctrine on the sanctity of human life, then they don’t need to work for their institutions, as Scarborough says later in the segment. Otherwise, they can buy their own abortions, contraception, and sterilization. Catholics who see these as deep sins should not be forced to underwrite them through their own church (it’s bad enough that we’re doing so through the government), and especially not based on an elitist diktat from a government that is supposed to stay out of church business.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (123456)	2/6/2012 5:42:28 PM
From: lorne	4 Recommendations Respond to of 224744

ken..Wonder how Europeans feel about your global warming scheme? European cold snap death toll surpasses 300 The deadly cold snap that has gripped Europe for more than a week wrought more havoc across the continent on Sunday, straining emergency services, grounding flights and pushing the death toll past 300. 05 Feb 2012 telegraph.co.uk The homeless population has borne the brunt of the suffering, with dozens of people freezing to death on the streets, in unheated apartments, fire escapes or in makeshift street shelters. French authorities on Sunday found the body of a homeless man who had frozen to death, bringing to at least 306 the number of cold-related deaths reported across Europe. With night-time temperatures plunging as low as minus 40 Celsius (minus 40 Fahrenheit) in Finland, the grim winter toll also rose in other countries. Italy, Poland and Ukraine all recorded more deaths. Ukraine announced another nine deaths, bring their total to 131 – most of them homeless people who perished on the streets since the freeze started nine days ago, Ukraine's emergencies ministry said. Some 1,800 people had been hospitalised, and 75,000 people had sought warmth and food in over 3,000 shelters across Ukraine. The bitter cold front has engulfed much of Europe and even crossed the Mediterranean into north Africa, where as many as 16 people were killed on Algeria's snow-slicked roads or in other weather-related accidents. In Rome, traffic was virtually paralysed by black ice as snow covered the city. As residents resorted to sawing through fallen trees blocking the roads, many people said they had had no assistance from the authorities. "It's awful. I had to walk two hours through freezing temperatures just to get to the metro," Rome resident Federico Maneski said. "The area is full of trees that have fallen on cars but no one's come to help us." The Italian death toll reached 17 when three homeless people were found dead, while two men suffered heart attacks as they shovelled snow in the Abruzzo region and Campania regions. The cold claimed eight new victims in Poland, bringing that country's toll to 53, and in Serbia, which has recorded nine deaths, authorities declared states of emergency in 32 municipalities, mostly in the south and southwest. Almost 70,000 people remained cut off in snowed-in Serbian villages, with police and military units providing basic necessities, said Predrag Maric, the police official in charge of Serbia's emergency services. In Romania, six new deaths brought the toll there to 34. But there was better news in Croatia, where a woman gave birth to a girl with the help of two neighbours after emergency services were unable to reach her as she went into labour in a village cut off by a blizzard. She named her daughter Snjezana – "Snow-White" in Croatian. Overnight temperatures in Finland plummeted to minus 40 degrees Celsius (minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit), but that did not deter many Helsinki voters from turning out to vote in a presidential election. Motorists were warned of more arctic winds and slick roads and poor visibility because of powdery snow. Similar conditions led to pile-ups on Friday near Helsinki, in which more than 200 cars were involved, and about 40 people taken to hospital. The cold spell is forecast to last until at least the middle of the week.