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To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (8385)2/7/2012 3:06:50 PM
From: mel2212 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 85487
 
>> Have you ever met anyone who believes that humans were created in present form 10,000 years ago?

True story here.

I was doing genealogy research at the Mormon Records center in Tempe, AZ. This is like a library, but the books are all relating to birth, death, marriage and other such records.

I'm doing my research and suddenly some hot, I am mean fantastic looking young blonde woman (girl) comes up to me and exclaims "I just found out I am 11 generations descended from Adam!". She smiled proudly and walked away.

Being that I was deep in Mormon territory, I concluded this is what the Mormons are teaching.

As for the poll. I am a right winger and I go with #2.



To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (8385)2/7/2012 3:47:56 PM
From: Bread Upon The Water  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
Hard to answer because for me, the evolutionary process, while real enough, doesn't necessarily exclude a creator. I am more in the frame of mind of Scientist Stephen Gould who wrote that Science and Religion are non-overlapping magisteria. From the Wiki site on Gould:


Main article: Non-overlapping magisteria
In his book Rocks of Ages (1999), Gould put forward what he described as "a blessedly simple and entirely conventional resolution to...the supposed conflict between science and religion." [78] He defines the term magisterium as "a domain where one form of teaching holds the appropriate tools for meaningful discourse and resolution." [78] The non-overlapping magisteria (NOMA) principle therefore divides the magisterium of science to cover "the empirical realm: what the Universe is made of (fact) and why does it work in this way (theory). The magisterium of religion extends over questions of ultimate meaning and moral value. These two magisteria do not overlap, nor do they encompass all inquiry." [78] He suggests that "NOMA enjoys strong and fully explicit support, even from the primary cultural stereotypes of hard-line traditionalism" and that NOMA is "a sound position of general consensus, established by long struggle among people of goodwill in both magisteria." [78] This view has not been without criticism, however. In his book The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins argues that this division is not quite as simple as it seems, as few religions exist without miracles impinging on the scientific magisterium, and that NOMA is an implicit endorsement that religion has a magisterium, which he strongly opposes.



To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (8385)2/7/2012 3:58:53 PM
From: Bearcatbob1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
1. humans evolved with god's input

Count me in for this option.



To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (8385)2/7/2012 4:05:59 PM
From: Alastair McIntosh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
Evolution Less Accepted in U.S. Than Other Western Countries, Study Finds

At least you beat Turkey

People in the United States are much less likely to accept Darwin's idea that humans and apes share a common ancestor than adults in other Western nations, a number of surveys show.

A new study of those surveys suggests that the main reason for this lies in a unique confluence of religion, politics, and the public understanding of biological science in the United States.

Researchers compared the results of past surveys of attitudes toward evolution taken in the U.S. since 1985 and similar surveys in Japan and 32 European countries.

In the U.S., only 14 percent of adults thought that evolution was "definitely true," while about a third firmly rejected the idea.

In European countries, including Denmark, Sweden, and France, more than 80 percent of adults surveyed said they accepted the concept of evolution.

The proportion of western European adults who believed the theory "absolutely false" ranged from 7 percent in Great Britain to 15 percent in the Netherlands.

The only country included in the study where adults were more likely than Americans to reject evolution was Turkey.

news.nationalgeographic.com




To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (8385)2/7/2012 5:06:24 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
depends on the meaning of input



To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (8385)2/7/2012 6:15:16 PM
From: work4ever  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
I'm a Republican, and I don't give a s---.

If forced to vote, I'd choose 1) or 2), but it would help if you could define "god" for me.

Oh wait, is this him?

bing.com



To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (8385)2/8/2012 3:36:43 AM
From: Joe Btfsplk1 Recommendation  Respond to of 85487
 
let's do a poll here on this thread

I'd guess some humans evolved, god or no, others didn't. The former will tend to be conservative/libertarians, the latter Democrats.

If the impervious could be scraped off the stupid amongst the sorriest of the second group, the material recovered might be used to construct an effective ballistic missile defense shield for the entire continent.