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To: Bobby Yellin who wrote (3392)11/22/1997 9:10:00 AM
From: lorne  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 116815
 
Good mornning Bobby
Do you think that the dollar could be looked at as any other stock,
the more it is diluted the less is its value, if so how can dummping
billons into a failing system help us.
It seems to me that gold on the other hand has the same value to me
as it has always had, and I am sure there are a few more people in the world that think the same way.
The mini van for sure is more expensive but is it of any more value
now than it was ten years ago, it still ends up in the scrap yard.
What is the value of the dollar based on, some bankers good word
or some government official,maybe the ecconmy.
Just seems that gold is gold and although different dollar values
can be placed on it, its real value whatever that is remains the same.
Still think Canada may be next on currency hit list.



To: Bobby Yellin who wrote (3392)11/22/1997 2:19:00 PM
From: Mark Bartlett  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116815
 
Bobby,

<,If the average American now started buying gold shares for their retirement funds...I think we would have a major reversal overnight..>>

I agree with your statement - although I would suggest that it could be made more international if you said " the average person" rather than the "average American" .... the internet is a global community <g>.

I think that you are saying something else important here too. I still firmly believe the price of gold is being manipulated to keep dollars from going in gold's direction. The gold market is so small, it takes _very little capital inflow to get it moving big time. If just 5% of what is invested in equities today, was switched into gold, it's price would rise dramatically - possibly causing a run out of equities and to some extent into gold. As long as gold is around, there is always that threat. And when it starts seriously compete with the US dollar for the spotlight, there would likely be a run on US treasuries to some degree - how much, who knows - but IMO it would not take that much to set the dominos following.

Maybe I am naive - but I do not see a "free market" anymore. I see one that is being internally manipulated, with perhaps good intentions - but with a very uncertain future.

All the best,

MB




To: Bobby Yellin who wrote (3392)11/24/1997 9:02:00 PM
From: John Barendrecht  Respond to of 116815
 
<<I do like your example about the minivan>> Bobby. sold the minivan and invested the proceeds in gold mining shares. You'll be happy to know, my investment is doing no worse than if I'd left my money in the minivan. Down to driving my 77 Pinto. (Owned it since it was new and only has 60,000 original miles on it). Remembered when I was looking for new minivan and one of the salesmen told me that this was a great investment. I asked him how much he thought it would appreciate in one year. When he said it would be worth less when it is a year old, I replied that I was glad he was not my investment councellor if he thought depreciating assets were good investments. But the point is even with this 1 or 2% inflation, lots of things that I use or need are going up more than that. You can't do without water, heat, electricity, etc and lots of other things have increased more than 5% per year over the last 10 years. Others, like electronics and computers come down, keeping the average low. CPI is a basket of goods that is adjusted constantly. (For the gov't benefit?)