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To: Thomas George Warner who wrote (7793)11/22/1997 9:49:00 AM
From: steve goldman  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 11057
 
Obviously there is not crystal ball that tells you where stocks will go, nonetheless, just like any investment, you do your research, you analysis (unless you are simply day trading), you get a feel for the market, the industry environment, and then you put you cash on the line.

Personally, I think the hard drive companies are a bit bottomed out. They got the crap, flat-out, kicked out of them. They got hit harder than any industry, for an extended period of time, than I can think of. Perhaps the networks last Februaru or so(i think it was feb-ish?) I mean first SEG tanks, then wdc, then rdrt...I mean, how ugly was Monday,, after the drives bounced on Friday, WDC was near 25, etc. to come in monday and see segate prerelease and RDRT take a charge, then qntm take a charge on Thurs and Friday and close a plant.

Nonetheless, unlike many of the networkers, outside of cisco, just about each of the hard drive companies has big, big revenues base, excellent balance sheets and lots of cash on those sheets.

Without a doubt there is some consolidation, overcapacity and price pressures that need to be resolved. Nonetheless, these are top companies that therefore have top management and this kind of management has experience to guide it through this troubled period.

The bad news is out...holders of the company now, in my opinion, know the news, are willing to accept, know the strength of the sector and need for hard drives and are confident that management can reduce capacity. Re; reducing capacity, I think this i why QNTM rallied friday morning on the new they were shutting down the plant. Normally news like that would hammer a stock, down 1/2 or 3/4 which is where most of the hard drives ended up, is ok, not great, but appeared to be more a reflection of the tech market (dell, intc, gtw) etc. rather than just the hard drive...after all, they are all tied together to an extent.
Holders of the stock now have stronger hands. Somewhere in here we will get through the selling related to this latest "wave" of earnings issues. Of course, new news and more disappointments rescape the landscape but they seem to be stabilizing. Wall street climbs a wall of worry and sells at the top.

Anyway, don't whitewash the hard drives either, they have some serious issues and problems, maily the prices and margins they are realizing. Good companies will reduce costs and overhead which should buoy margins and help sustain profits. Then, when pricing pressures ease, this should amplify the return of earnings. Sometimes, tight periods swab the decks and clean house which is need. Obviously this was need since these companies spun themselves a bit too much.

Anyway, looks like SEG will break even and WDC will make a little money, 20 or 30 cents. As well, I think WDC does more contracting of components which will help them reduce costs in down turn. They just submit fewer orders whereas seagate produces a lot themselves and will have employees and facilities turning down.

Nonetheless, these are high caliber companies that are simply out of favor, flat out disliked...nonetheless, someone likes them since they are trading relatively big volume and hanging in there. When things resolve themselves and pricing pressures start to turn and big profits come back, if at all, the stocks won't be at 20...in fact, a good investor would probably be near their selling point...buy them when they are low, sell when they are high....bad news...low...good news high....they key in a contrarian, bottom up approach to this is picking quality companies, not crap.

Some of these tech startups fit the "crap"bill, with no revenues, no management and no chance of recovering unless they find the "cure". I think SEG, WDC, QNTM, APM, RDRT, regardless of which you own, are reasonably good companies.

Good luck
steve@yamner.com



To: Thomas George Warner who wrote (7793)11/24/1997 3:14:00 AM
From: Johnathan C. Doe  Respond to of 11057
 
T.G.W., I really have to laugh at the tone of your response to me. Several years old? I have been talking to telco and cable networking staff just this week and my comments are based on those discussions. Why do you think I am putting my portfolio in the networking stocks if I don't think there is a future? I do though ponder what the next 6 months is going to look like in the techs. That is about the short-term future. I just don't see much happening yet in the major metropolitan areas from a consumer standpoint. If you look at the activity in bandwidth, it has been the big fiber contracts awarded by telcos to ADCT and DIGI. They are working on upgrading there infrastructions, but how long before that trickles down to the consumer in the form of ultra high speed connections? What cable companies are implementing hybrid fiber systems? Look at HLIT and Ortel for example. Where are cable modems? It has been a year and it all seems to be in the same place it was last year, which is to say, I don't see any deployed except in trials. Demand for WebTV is horrible. That has been a big bust. Where is video communications? I'm not even excited about DVD. I just don't see anything compelling in the tech area. Comdex is pathetic.



To: Thomas George Warner who wrote (7793)12/5/1997 8:27:00 PM
From: Johnathan C. Doe  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 11057
 
"On 11/14 you bought into the Dd stocks for some
reason than sold and are putting the money into ASND??????"

Well, looks like I was pretty stupid after all; WDC is in the toilet and look at ASND! Got anymore comments on my trading decisions?