To: average joe who wrote (21137 ) 2/10/2012 7:42:35 PM From: Solon Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300 Socrates yes. Homer..certainly not the entire author. Jesus, IMO--nothing resembling anything that has been cobbled together. If you read the article you responded to thoughtfully (and being careful to look for factual errors which would obviously discredit it) you will come to the last paragraph which is the very most I can offer as a sop to all the innumerable "gospels" that were invented by an underground mystic cult. When you put all those arguments together there is simply no room for such a person as fictionalized in the "gospels". One of the many REAL philosophers and writers and thousands of ordinary people would have known of these incredible events and anchored them to history. Jewish Saints DID NOT come out of their graves and go visiting about Jerusalem dropping slime and old bones where they went. SOMEBODY would have heard and the stories would have gotten to Philo or somebody! However, I would truly like to know if you find any of those arguments of the article faulty? For instance, the fact that "Nazareth" did not exist at that time and that the gospels were CLEARLY and deliberately (especially Matthew) fabricated to pretend a coherent structure of dogma. Because if Gauvin's arguments (and the similar arguments of dozens of other scholars) are faulty, then I need to personally allow that some of that fiction and mythology derived from someone who actually lived and perhaps went berserk on a fig tree. If you dip into this book (link follows) for even a bit you WILL see that PHILO was a huge Old Testament Scholar. These events would have been the modern equivalent of a flying saucer full of aliens dropping into your community for 3 1/2 years and causing events far more incredible than talking in tongues or walking on water or bringing people back to life. EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE KNOWN. THE CARAVANS WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE STORIES TO EVERY KNOWN PART OF THE WORLD! Somebody doesn't even do an exorcism in the middle of Africa and the whole world is talking about it! But of Jesus. Absolute SILENCE!! earlychristianwritings.com "John E. Remsburg, in his scholarly work on "The Christ," compiled a list of forty-two writers who lived and wrote during the time or within a century after the time of Christ and not one of whom ever mentioned him. Philo, one of the most renowned writers the Jewish race has produced, was born before the beginning of the Christian Era, and lived for many years after the time at which Jesus is supposed to have died. His home was in or near Jerusalem, where Jesus is said to have preached, to have performed miracles, to have been crucified, and to have risen from the dead. Had Jesus done these things, the writings of Philo would certainly contain some record of his life. Yet this philosopher, who must have been familiar with Herod's massacre of the innocents, and with the preaching, miracles and death of Jesus, had these things occurred; who wrote an account of the Jews, covering this period, and discussed the very questions that are said to have been near to Christ's heart, never once mentioned the name of, or any deed connected with, the reputed Savior of the world."