To: koan who wrote (8968 ) 2/11/2012 12:43:52 AM From: TimF 1 Recommendation Respond to of 85487 Economic conditions should not help education, but education does directly impact economics and freedom. The 2nd half of your statement is agreeing with me so if I have it backwards so do you. As for the 1st half your attacking a statement that is 1 - True, so it shouldn't be attacked. Better economic conditions do help education. and 2 - Not what I said. I said freedom and better economic incentives help education. And that more school choice (in other words more competition for students) would be more likely to improve education than following the same old pattern that hasn't worked. We've roughly doubled real per student spending every generation, without seeming to get much out of pouring all that extra money in to the socialized system. Even if competition didn't have such a good track record when it does get tried, it would still at least be something different, rather than doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. The more education the more economic success and freedom you will get. That is an axiom. No its not an axiom, at least not a reasonable one. It is reasonable to think that in general terms the better education is the more economic success a country has, but even that isn't properly considered an axiom, just something back by common sense, and the historical record. But throwing more resources at education isn't the same as having better education. As for more education equaling more freedom, that's only true to the extent the education successfully promotes freedom, and a lot of education these days does not. Also the point your trying to make isn't really response to the post you replied to. Education is economically beneficial, but that doesn't mean freedom, and having limits on government, isn't.