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To: Tommaso who wrote (8954)11/22/1997 11:25:00 AM
From: studdog  Respond to of 18056
 
There is growing clarity about earnings trends next year. We have had several warnings and earnings downgrades in several sectors for several different reasons, most due to overseas problems or overcapacity.( Avon, COMS, MUEI, WDC etc.) AMAT used the dreaded "visibility" word in their conference call, as in "lack of". But our market continues going up.
I think that earnings expectations have got to come down. DOes anyone have access to current I/B/E/S one year ahead analyst earnings expectations? A couple of weeks ago it was $50.37. This I think is a key indicator to watch.

So, the only thing that I can see that can prop up this market is a significant drop in bonds (They would have to go below Fed Fund rates) or major multiple expansion (in the face of declining growth rates).

Dragging out the Fed valuation model of 12 month earnings estimates/ current 10 year bond yields gives us a fair value of the S&P of 863, and a current overvaluation of 10%. Not table pounding overvaluation especially if bond yields fall. BUT, if earnings expectations are clearly being reduced than we have another story. Even some of the major bulls on these boards (Iqbal) are looking for bond yields to rise, so with falling earnings expectations and rising yields we, IMHO, could see very poor performance of the S&P.

I would really appreciate getting up to date I/B/E/S numbers from anyone out there.

Thanks

Karl



To: Tommaso who wrote (8954)11/22/1997 12:13:00 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Respond to of 18056
 
And some more, Yamaichi news

LONDON, Nov 22 (Reuters) - The Bank of England said on Saturday it was keeping a watchful eye on the crisis at Japan's Yamaichi
Securities Co Ltd which has banking and equities operations in London.


Haim



To: Tommaso who wrote (8954)11/22/1997 2:33:00 PM
From: Rational  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18056
 
Tommaso:

The Yamaichi failure affected the stock market for the most part of Friday. At this juncture, it is in the interest of big investment houses to keep the prices up to continue individual investors' confidence so that these investors do not call their funds to pull out of equity. I am convinced that many smart money managers have pulled out. Today's Barron's Online has a good article explaining how the market may unravel.

Sankar