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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (182380)2/14/2012 1:54:00 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 544178
 
LBJ and Nixon were both grey men. Some good, some bad. I hated both of them passionately, for trying to send me to Vietnam. In retrospect, after many other presidents, I don't hate either of them.

I heard an interesting piece on the guy that will be the new president of China on the BBC. His father was banished to a remote province by Mao in the Cultural Revolution, and he and his family lived in a cave for seven years. I doubt he'll worry about the silly crap our pols do.

reuters.com



To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (182380)2/14/2012 9:56:51 AM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 544178
 
On VN once has to remember he inherited the war . . .

Actually the Vietnam War was Nixon's kind of war, pure and simple, as the saying goes. What he inherited was not the war but a country far too divided to pursue the war publicly the way Nixon wanted. So he campaigned for the presidency on a flat out lie that he had a plan to end it and then continued to wage the war based on a series of deceptions. Again because the country was too divided to publicly pursue it the way he wanted. So rather than accommodate, he went secret.

As for Nixon "kowtowing" to the right, on the Vietnam War he did no such thing. On this issue, the views of the right were not only Nixon's own, he had helped create them with his campaign for the senate in California in the 40s. Nixon, you may well recall, was the price the Taft forces exacted from the Eisenhower forces in 1952. Nixon, to repeat, was the right.

There was far more wrong with Nixon than his "enemies" list.

You are welcome to your memories but don't alter history to keep them.