The Nitty Gritty...
On the topic of IPM(CF) price declines, or Who is getting eaten here.
This discussion centers around the decisions that you, the readers, must make, if you are not already out of this "stalk".
This is an ugly, sordid, tawdry affair. You readers are witnesses to the small dramas that are played out on your computer screens every day. Every poster you see could be real or could be a puppet. You must decide if what you read has any validity. This is particularily true when the subject is IPMCF and you are faced with a decision to make.
This story played itself out on SI, the posts I have referred to are all posts that come after my post called Scissors. Remember what I told you in Scissors. The pieces will fall where they may, but it is up to you to decide, nobody can make decisions for you.
The word coward is fraught with negative connotations, you must decide what is true courage, not some nit.
"nit: The egg of a louse or insect, parasitic on man or animals; the insect itself in a young state."
Where I am uncertain as to a posters status in the little IPM(CF) drama, I will use the posters full message and provide a message number. Links will be unreliable from this point forward as the use of puppets on SI is a reality. If you tried to access Scissors you likely noticed that the link is broken. Put your own spin on it, I can't make decisions for you.
The Tale of the Cowardly Lion
Who is the Coward, who is a Puppet or What magnificent birds they are!?
It begins with a profile of an SI poster, lets go see.
exchange2000.com
Hello Herman Leusink. As you can see, Herman has been an SI member for a long time. I notice that he has only posted a few messages during the year, probably a bit shy. HL, I really hope you don't mind being part of our little story, if you do a complaint to Jill webmistress@techstocks.com will remove this story.
Our tale moves to a statement taken from another thread. The person who provided this statement is a bookmark I have on SI. Thanks to Shirley Owen for the image of last weeks trading in IPM(CF) stock, posted well before the trading began.
Hi Mike and Grampa, Will send an e-mail later tonight, but right now we are going to Goldstream to watch the salmon come back by the thousands to spawn and die. The struggle upstream to spawn is an amazing sight to see. Large numbers of bald eagles come to prey on their spent carcasses. What magnificent birds they are!
exchange2000.com
The sentiment shown by this poster in manysituations has made her a very relaxing "bookmark" read, I doubt she is lying to me or any other poster, but that is what your decisions are all about, isn't it?
Casey to Ron
To: Ron Struthers (27635 ) Wednesday, Nov 19 1997 4:14PM EST
From: Casey Reply #27666 of 28075
Ron:
<<In your message to Graystone "I am not afraid to post honest answers nor hide behind a nickname without an email address."">>
Amen to that. HungryLion and Graystone (they bring to mind the cowardly lion and the scarecrow) posts are negative spin for one purpose only. They're short and are pumping it for all they can. Time and IPM's eventual success oughta silence them.
HungryLion
I may be a shorter but I've never recommended IPMCF as a buy. I am
sickened that my fellow shorters are holding the little guy upside
down until all the money falls from his pockets.
SadLion
HungryLion
I don't think you have the guts to post anything but self righteous
crap after the fact. I put my butt on the line when crunch time
rolled around and warned people that they would lose big. I haven't
seen you attempt to protect inexperienced investors from what is
really going on here. Are you that green or can't you recognize how
Struthers and Austin (Stauffer) are hammering the little guy over and
over again with their obvious lies. Your profile indicates that IPMCF was a favorite stock. I should have guessed.
HL
To: HungryLion (27638 ) Wednesday, Nov 19 1997 4:17PM EST
From: Casey Reply #27669 of 28081
<<I put my butt on the line when crunch time rolled around and warned people that they would lose big.>>
Give us a break. You did all you could to create panic to support your short position. How can an anonymous poster put his butt on the line. You are truly to be laughed at.
HungryLion
I think management of SI should be aware that it is becoming a haven
for promotion of scam stocks and more negative opinion is needed to
keep the hucksters honest. I know the wolves in sheeps clothing in this thread are constantly emailing Jill to have negative posters removed. Why wasn't JKNF removed? Or all the name calling and insulting remarks made towards ECharters?
HL
HungryLion
Back off Flynn. The good people at IPM are working 12 hour days to
resolve shareholder concerns. Only a few short weeks ago JTaylor had
IPM at the top of his "Moonshot List".
However, IPMCF13 seems to be in gimbel lock and is tumbling out of
control.
HL
To: Matt C. Austin (27731 ) Wednesday, Nov 19 1997 8:15PM EST
From: Casey Reply #27744 of 27980
Matt:
<<I don't need to stick around here and read it.>>
Too bad. But I don't blame you. Just seems that the wrong people are letting themselves get pushed around by Cowardly, the Scarecrow and the rest of the nits.
HungryLion
This mindless conjecture is what got you in trouble in the first
place. Why don't you demand to see the Behre Dolbear reports? The
answer is there.
HelpfulLion
To: HungryLion (27856 ) Thursday, Nov 20 1997 5:07PM EST
From: Casey Reply #27876 of 28082
Cowardly:
<<This mindless conjecture is what got you in trouble in the first place. Why don't you demand to see the Behre Dolbear reports? The answer is there.>>
How do you know?
To: HungryLion (27703 ) Wednesday, Nov 19 1997 7:59PM EST
From: Casey Reply #27742 of 27980
Cowardly:
<<I made a good call based on sound analysis. Nothing more.>>
Sound analysis eh? So you got the dope by telephone then you say?? Shame
Casey to Pý
To: Peter Portlas (27681 ) Wednesday, Nov 19 1997 7:50PM EST
From: Casey Reply #27741 of 28082
Peter:
re CowardlyLion:
<<You made two posts on Friday, appx 10 a.m. est and 1 p.m. est. Looking back at those posts, one could infer that you had seen the press release before it was made public. Did you?>>
There is no doubt in my mind that he did.
Now it is pretty obvious that HungryLion can take care of himself, isn't it. We don't really know what his agenda is, do we. All we have to go on is his profile and previous posts. Sometimes "who is who" just can't be answered. You have to decide.
While we are on the subject of honest questions and honest answers, you shouldn't have to be going lytspeed to see that Herman is "likely" an honest person, go and read his posts. He might even be considered helpful. In the thick of the battle Herman spoke up and asked mattc, a prominent IPM(CF) long, a simple straightforward question, from a simple straightforward poster.
To: Matt C. Austin (27731 ) Wednesday, Nov 19 1997 8:58PM EST
From: Herman Leusink Reply #27748 of 27980
Matt,
Please send me your email address at hl@computronix.com.
Thanks.
Herman
Now we leave the scenario, why, because Herman can't make any decisions for you can he ? Why would you believe him ? We can never know for certain if HL got his email address, will we. It is entirely speculation, regardless of who says what. Again, all we can do is look at the profile and try to determine the agenda of each poster. It is the things that are left unsaid that often leave us with the scissors in our hands.
Now you people can decide if it is all manipulation or not. I won't even try to guess which of these characters is which. One thing I suspect is this, one of them is a puppet, maybe more than one, you might also check for nits.
"briles" has "likely" left the thread. Look at his profile and see if you can figure out his agenda. heheheh
I have posted some messages in its entirety to avoid being accused of manipulation of facts.
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