To: engineer who wrote (109619 ) 2/15/2012 5:23:45 PM From: Maurice Winn 2 Recommendations Respond to of 197258 <At what point does the complete wirelss industry associations and standards and groups become irrelvant and driven by comsumers more than the base technology? > While I understand the usefulness of standards bodies, to achieve economies of scale and efficencies, I developed an antipathy to them from my oil industry experience. I managed to kill off one standard which was being developed [in New Zealand] for re-refined oil. They become big jamborees and self-sustaining bureaucracies, and governments love to get involved making things worse. Qualcomm has been poorly served by the SETI [aka ETSI] gang and the hagfish cartel which managed to tie Qualcomm intellectual property up in their GSM slimeball, resulting in extorquerationate royalties of 12% for W-CDMA compared with Qualcomm's 4% for CDMA2000 which did a better job. That excess royalty burden, now on LTE too, and the intellectual property wars, continue to this day with vast expenses and legal wars as "FRAND" is tested in court and in geopolitical kleptocracy, and words like "iPad" are fought around the world. My preference is for blood and guts technology and marketing wars with customers deciding who is doing a good job at the best price. Apple has done a fantastic job [Jobs] and without any FRAND W-CDMA/LTE/CDMA2000 participation has come from nowhere [though they they had a good business in the computing industry so had a fair idea about customers and technology] and gone "jaw-dropping" almost to $500 billion market capitalisation and could easily reach $1 trillion [in 2011 dollars, not hyperinflated ones]. In NZ, the government took over fuel specifications [my domain previously] and now innovation is illegal. Good luck getting any innovation through that thicket. Standards become simply suffocatocracy instead of enhancing efficiency, innovation, competition, and freedom to choose. Mqurice