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To: koan who wrote (9746)	2/18/2012 9:50:04 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

Broken arms and infections basically do get treatment in the US. Your unreasonably conflating health care or treatment, with health insurance coverage. And even if such a conflation was accurate (and it isn't) it also isn't true that you have actual universal coverage in most other rich countries, and the idea that Obamacare will provide it is false (even that it will extend it is uncertain, to the extent it raises the cost of insurance by adding requirements it could decrease coverage).

To: koan who wrote (9746)	2/18/2012 11:23:52 PM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

"The above is an esoteric mainly irrelevant issue. The issue of prime importance is getting health care to everyone" But Tim F. has raised a good point and one that worries a lot of people/voters. And that is: Will the quality of my current care decrease (and my taxes go up) as we expand the health care tent? That's the devil in the details and probably what the political argument is about. We need to set out whose Ox is going to be gored and what the cost of the universal system is going to be and only then do I think people will be able to make enough of judgment to accept it, or reject it as the case may be, but I think a lot of people feel they are being bamboozled by the social engineers because the facts are not plain enough.