To: Giordano Bruno who wrote (21413 ) 2/19/2012 2:54:49 PM From: Solon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300 "Nothing can evolve without a beginning and nothing can begin without being somewhat evolved." You are way ahead of the rest of us. I have never seen a true beginning. I have only witnessed moments on a time-line. I know that to get here I had to get through fish and dinosaurs and sharp looking chimps with ATTITUDE--but it is all pretty fuzzy... -g- The earth needed to go through the solar system and the solar system through the Milky Way, and so on. We have never seen a "Nothing"--not even with our greatest telescopes! But feel free to pursue this incredible search! Fascinating if you can find NOTHING (somewhere out there or out when )--and we can start figuring out what caused it!! I am EXCITED!! I am quite comfortable with the idea that "something" always was--because the only alternative I can imagine at this point was that before there was something there was nothing which seems rather a gratuitous speculation considering I have such strong evidence of something and no evidence for nothing! Superstitious people also believe that something always was, by the way. But they believe it was some remarkable and super-smart person existing independently of soil, food, water, bumble bees, bacteria, rocks, elements, oxygen, or anything at all! What kind of a person? Not Chinese and not American--but GODILENCHIAN! I don't know why they invent such refined beliefs. I guess it is like writing a book. I really love Donaldson and Tolkien. They created really neat worlds. I don't much care for any of the fantasies or mythologies created by barbarians although some of them were fun reads that touched archetypal themes.