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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (9842)	2/20/2012 10:17:14 AM
From: TimF	1 Recommendation Respond to of 85487

When the church controls it's employees Which it isn't doing in this case, no more than my employer not paying for my car, is controlling me because now I have to make car payments. employees who are paid with government money Not all of them are, and its irrelevant in they stop taking the money, or even if they had never taken it, the mandate still applies. This isn't a condition for government money, its a bold face command to people telling them to violate their religious principles. No one here is telling the church what to do in the church - or in the church business. Yes they are, even the actual church itself is not immune. A parish or diocese can be subject to the law if works with non-members too much; if it employes people without demanding that they are Catholic (which I don't think you'd want it to do, and which would probably be illegal under anti-discrimination law), or works with non-church members extensively (giving out lots of charity for example). They would be immune if they solely conducted worship services and only for members of the Catholic Church, but churches (Catholic or not) generally don't work that way. Well I suppose they might not face actual sanction, officials have discretion in how they enforce the law, but being subject to legal penalties and depending on the forbearance of the authorities which could change at any time (and maybe also being subject to lawsuits, which the government couldn't prevent except by changing the law), is a perilous position to be in. Beyond that the church is not just the church buildings, the dioceses and the parishes, the other organizations are part of the church, and part of church business as well. Separation of church and state is a two way thing, if its only one way its not stable.