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To: Gersh Avery who wrote (66381)	2/21/2012 10:29:19 PM
From: Farmboy	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 103300

Geesh Gersh, you want me to write a book! LOL I don't 'presume' anything. I 'know' it. I said 95% of people who are heroin addicts started their drug use with marijuana. Do you not agree marijuana has an effect on the brain? Changes perceptions? Feelings? Reactions? I've seen marijuana addicts displaying virtually the same degree of helplessness as heroin addicts. I've seen heron adddicts holding down a good job, and functioning in life. They're all different. I do believe marijuana is psychologically addicting much more than physically, but physically in only a few cases and no where nearly as physically addicting as alcohol, nicotine, heroin, cocaine, meth, oxy, etc. Anyone who says marijuana is not at all addictive is, I believe, only fooling themselves. Why else would an otherwise perfectly normal, 'smart' kid throw their life away after they got on weed? Opiates suck - all of them, but especially the 'legal' pills. "After all, would my government ever approve anything that was bad for me?" (Think: Alcohol) I estimate 85% of the ones who were successful in truly kicking opiates did it cold turkey, through the sweating, withdrawls, chilling, freezing, burning up for three days method. Hard core detox, which lasted. I never had much luck with methadone clinics - like using whiskey to get someone off beer. I've met many 'single use meth addicts', but not as many single use opiate addicts. Sure there are some with such addictive personalities they can become hooked on ice cream. Honestly. I fail to follow your statements corelating the rats, cause, and effect. sorry. I'm just not getting it, I guess. Your statement that you have removed 50k opium users through medical use of marijuana, is a 'presumption', and one which I would say is totally too optimistic. Way overboard. If marijuana would stop heroin users, don't you think they all would just revert to marijauana? To assume someone chooses to go through the trials and tribulations of worrying about the next fix, when they could just stop it by going to marijuana .. just makes no sense to me at all. Sorry, but it sounds like a contrived reason to support medical marijuana. Why smoke at all, when the same active drug/substance can be had in a pill? Just food for thought. I know I missed some and some I skipped because it would just take too long to get into. Please allow me to do so another time. BTW, do you agree nicotine is more addictive than heroin? I've been told so by several heroin users. Just wondered what you think. Back later ... Evening.

To: Gersh Avery who wrote (66381)	2/21/2012 10:38:04 PM
From: Honey_Bee	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

What do you consider an "opiate?"