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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (10115)	2/23/2012 10:02:31 AM
From: sm1th	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

Percent contributions of various effects to the observed global surface warming over the past 100-150 years Like all of those studies, based on models simplified to the point of uselessness.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (10115)	2/24/2012 10:37:56 AM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

Roger Pielke on skepticalscience site: pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com ... My experience with Skeptical Science (as I have documented extensively on my weblog) is they are not really interested in a constructive debate. I have given up trying with them. I presented several papers that show evidence of self-regulation (each in the peer reviewed literature), and that is where the debate really needs to take place. P.S. Skeptical Science never even responded to my request for their answers to these two questions: 1. Is global warming (and cooling) a subset of climate change or does it dominate climate change? 2. What evidence exists that the multi-decadal global climate models can skillfully predict i) the real-world observed behaviour of large-scale atmospheric-ocean circulation features such as ENSO, the NAO, the PDO, ect. and ii) CHANGES in the statistics (patterning and in time) of these circulation features? I posted on this in http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/two-questions-to-skeptical-science-regarding-i-the-relation-of-global-warming-to-climate-change-and-ii-the-predictive-skill-of-multi-decadal-global-climate-models/ The questions would challenge them too much, I assume, so they have ignored them. Roger ...... I was in direct contact with one of their contributors – Rob Honeycutt where we exchanged a number of e-mails. He said they would respond to my questions (this was months ago) and they never did. I had an extensive interchange with commenters and presenters on the weblog last year (these exchanges are summarized in detail on my website). My conclusion of their weblog is that it is a place for the “convinced” to vent their views and, for some, disparage those who do not (e.g. see their small links on the upper left of their weblog home page – Christy Crocks. ect). To my knowledge, most people do not pay any attention to their weblog because of their tone and arrogance in some of their posts, and certainly in their comments. .....