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To: koan who wrote (10216)	2/23/2012 11:31:35 PM
From: Bearcatbob	7 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

I always taught my kids: "if you want to win an argument, It sure helps to be on the right side of it". Did you tell them to get the facts right or - if they thought they were on the right side of an argument that any necessary fairy tale was appropriate?

To: koan who wrote (10216)	2/24/2012 9:27:24 AM
From: sm1th	4 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 85487

Remember the authorities in power for the hundreds of years of the middle ages said that anyone who questioend their ideas was a heretic and punishable by torture and death. Not much different from the way climate skeptics are treated by you enlightened folks today.

To: koan who wrote (10216)	2/24/2012 4:39:06 PM
From: TimF	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

It was science that hauled us out of the dark ages Science shouldn't be about claiming some idea as consensus, calling anyone who disagrees "anti-science", and manipulating data to support the consensus as unquestionable truth rather than a specific theory your supporting. Science isn't about unquestionable truth at all. When scientists forget that, or act against it, science suffers. Of course science is done by people, and people are imperfect. They oversell their points. form political groupings about different ideas, etc. That's probably unavoidable, but opposing that idea isn't "anti-science".