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To: Yorikke who wrote (239)	11/23/1997 1:33:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 650

The negative at the end, which MJB speaks of, I understand that. You were speaking of my post, which has to be somewhat more obscure here, because this is not my turf, and I am by nature I hope somewhat of a polite being, I try to not step on toes. What he meant was that I was trying to translate things of God and they tended to seem to you and MJB to be a negative assault on the "sinner". But I have every right to do that, as I am a sinner. One that needs a lot of watching, I'll tell you that. Time has helped a great deal, but it never ends, one way or anther, for anyone. It's always there. The one side with nothing the human can actually see with their eyes or touch with their hands, on the otherside there is a large planet screaming for attention, especially for the purient and disgusting aspects of human achievement. Ah, yes. I preach. Ah yes, the world literally disgusts me, and the future paralyzes me because the children and animals cannot survive it much longer. We will kill all the animals, and the children will all kill themselves. Hate to bring up some heavy stuff here, but hey!!!! This is the world all of you have fought so hard to achieve, and all of the people like me have tried so hard to stop. So what can I say. Like Pogo, I have seen the future and it is... something I can't remember but it fits here. Meunch-kin, my humor level is once again rising, as is yours I hope. You yourself know the old Buddhist come-on--The journey of 1000 miles begins with the first step. So the 999 follow.... The devil lays awake at night sweating that the first step will be vaguely, anywhere near the direction of Jesus Christ. :) Within that framework of battle, I have become more content and less angry and combative, as you notice.

To: Yorikke who wrote (239)	11/24/1997 11:24:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 650

I feel that I should make another apology for my post to you, about being negative. Now, looking at it, THAT is negative. Yes, I do believe these things. Yes, they are true. Yes, I believe many things which are not pleasant for me, living creatures and children are yet to come. So I try very hard to just play it all for laughs, and not exit the humor mode. When I don't, even for a minute, all of these things that horrify me start to spill out, and even though I 'm just mentioning it in passing it can tend to sound like an hysterical tirade. It wasn't. Honest. Perhaps that is why the "Christ-ians" tend so very much to do nothing but talk about Jesus. Therein, I must tell you, is much peace, joy and happiness. A note to myself: do it.