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To: O'Hara who wrote (240)	11/23/1997 1:46:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 650

Dear Shalom, I think it is good to look at the miserable lack of Christianity anywhere near the miserable and putrid life of Adolph Hitler. The main historian of our time on him noted that about the only distinguishing feature of the creatin (as opposed to creature, or product of the Creator) was that his dandruff stood on his shoulders like snow, people remembered. Occultish books proudly proclaim that he was a fervent member of several secret societies, most certainly the THULE society, just another satanist recruiting program. And, as history ignores, and all of the embarrassing Americans who still look upon his memorablia and image and do anything but grab their mouths and run toward the bathroom is a source of unending embarrassment. How shameful and gross to associate our Lord and His Father with an occultist who got his power from satan himself. Dawn of Magic and Morning of Magicians, or the other book equally read, but with a slightly different play on words, speaks of the SS meetings being held inside a pentangle painted on the ground. The cross and insignia and the use of black, red and white are all occultist. Also, the "eagle", if you look close, that they had everywhere, is actually the Egyptian bird of the underworld. Look at the outline of it. It is as far from our good old eagle as you get, and the Egyptian bird is the one used in the Nazi religion, which it in fact was. They just didn't have TV, and brought the entire nation at gunpoint to watch Hitler give them a live religious broadcast every other night. Many, many Christians died in those camps, although history has completely ignored that fact--completely. They, of course, were ripe for that as there was no Christ-ianity going in Europe at all at that time. They were purely dead nominal Christians, in name only, wandering weekly, perhaps, into dead churches which vaguely talked about God, and I'm sure not much about Jesus, I would guess. To my knowledge, correct me if I'm wrong, the born-again experience was almost nil, and those who knew about it long dead. Something will always fill that vacuum. So Hitler used the occult principles in every possible manner, including "Heil Hitler", which is "Hail Caesar", complete with the extended stiff right arm. Does anyone ever see these things? The reason they did that to Caesar is that fools who worship the devil end up worshipping other people as their concept of "god". Satan has always played on the weakness of people to want another person to worship.

To: O'Hara who wrote (240)	11/23/1997 9:54:00 PM
From: Yorikke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 650

Shalom, If you didn't post the bit on Jesus being an IRA member I deeply regret any association I may have made between you and the original post, which is now lost to me. Yes I am given to missunderstanding....though regretfully I can not admit that I do this only as a means of avoiding facing issues. Shalom, We can not blame one man for the deaths of 50 million people. ( Lets group em all together just for fun). The fact is that the organized churches and governments of europe conspiried with the SS to get rid of the jews, bad christians, and the genetically abhorant. The german SS were generally from good christian homes that felt free enterprise was a wonderful thing. They look so much like us that it sends chills down my spine....And old Adi was just the culmination of long period of repression and murder, justified by the need to unite the nation state, to have an identitiy...to be true Frenchmen, or Italians, or Germans....Hey look at the Swiss....You remember Mary Poppins running accross the border into that fine country....That smiled as it stuffed its pockets with blood money.....Or our own president who had no liking for the 'jewish situation' Guilty....Guilty.....Guilty....We are guilty of the crimes. Most of Us by blood and heritage...but guilty all the same.....What is this? Only Good Christians don't sin? Like it or not most reading this thread are christians. Christians by birth and heritage....we may not profess as you do Shalom, but Christians all the same...And there are those among us, past and present who at not very nice, vilans who will convince us that its ok to slaughter some poor group of 'degenerates'.... I have walked the cemetaries of the Pacific and I have seen the endless grave stones of 18 year old boys who died before they even knew what they were fighting for. I am humbled by their sacrafice. But what is any different between some poor kid from Texas and one from Pommerainia? One was a US Marine and the other an SS trooper. Neither understood really. One WAS right and the other was wrong. They both died. One tried to kill japs and the other may have killed jews. God save us all, for we are all responsible for this mess. And by standing by and watching...we are doomed.....You too....each and every one of us.... Thats What I think Jesus was saying. Salvation is an Action not a belief. There is no sea of forgetfullness, there is no salvation, there is only the responsibility to live the commitmant. There is no sweetness in our christian god. He is of the old testiment and he says get off your ass and DO something. The only way out of Hell is into the heart of the beast. And we are the beast. If this is the case we are all doomed. But we are Human. And that means we are doomed....so what is new? I'm glad I can not offend you. regards mnmuench