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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (23022)	3/17/2012 12:04:46 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

Religion is Love & Tolerance , Patience & Reason (and carrying out God's plan) And of course President Obama is the Anti Christ ! en.wikipedia.org

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (23022)	3/17/2012 6:44:11 AM
From: Solon	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

“The primitive or under educated are very easy to indoctrinate with stories and beliefs in imaginary gods and spirits.....it's so easy for them to "understand" and they are easily controlled by their teachers.....instil fear in someone and you will control him.... That's why I am always amused when I hear the term, "god fearing man". I asked many why they fear their god.... The silliest answer I hear is that "fear really means love to them"...lol” Really good post. Very cogent. “it's so easy for them to "understand" and they are easily controlled by their teachers.” And “fear really means love to them”. It surely does. Obviously they have no “love” for this imaginary character. But FEAR! Oh yes!! Look at any of the other ideologies where the people are scared shitless because of the cruelty and complete lack of normal human constraints represented in their leader. I am looking back at the public display of "LOVE" and "DEVOTION" put out by the "followers" of Kim Jong-il. So Jesus is in great company in ruling by terror and the threats of eternal torture!

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (23022)	3/17/2012 8:49:08 AM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 69300

Some primitive and undecated people believe in animal spirits. Others think eastern gurus can levitate, bi-locate, start fires with 'Qi'. Message 27032387 Message 27019621 Message 27034953

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (23022)	3/17/2012 10:35:46 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

"The primitive or under educated are very easy to indoctrinate with stories and beliefs in imaginary gods and spirits" That is so true. My wife is into indigenous culture and how it has continued to have life and meaning for various of those peoples over time. My wife's interests (which I share) have created a lot of interesting travel and unique experiences for us! In spite of the impact of assimilation and the larger society, tribal culture has still been nurtured and kept alive from within. Nature Gods and Spirits still play a large role in their culture--unlike Christianity which has subsumed many of the Nature Gods under the aegis of Yahweh/Jesus/ Holy Spirit versus Satan and a host of 'Demon' assistants! Christianity can be seen as developing in much the same way these indigenous beliefs develop. Christianity, of course, was heavily influenced by Mithraism and Zoroastrianism from which the polarities of Heaven and Hell and absolute good and evil were developed. It is fascinating how belief can create an interpretation of causation between events which then goes to reinforce the belief. I myself have been a student of world religions and have been in Buddhist Temples, Shaking tents, Eckankar groups, Sikh Gurdwaras, and you name it! No matter how sophisticated or modernised you find these religions to be, you will find truly atavistic and barbarian superstitions still living with many of the practitioners at a deep and fundamental inner level. The "EVIL EYE"--WHOOO!!! ... is one that crops up repeatedly when one probes deeper! :-) As you may have gathered, neither I nor my wife are religious. Most people with a sincere interest in actually studying these matters are NOT! Joseph Campbell, for example. You will find some of the retards on this thread (such as the primitive barbarian, Brumstone) who will pretend that I believe in animal spirits because I study Christianity and Native Culture and Shintoism and indeed all religious practices! However, I believe all religions to be man-made and mostly ridiculous! And for the record (once again!)--I DO NOT believe in Animal Spirits, Spirit guides, or Spirits in any way, shape, or form...excepting perhaps good vodka! :-) That is not to say that I do not share a sense of awe and wonder about the UNKNOWN with such people as Einstein and Spinoza. Hey! What is wrong with a little name dropping! In case you have not figured it out, people like Brumstone hate me because I consider them Fundy Freaks. So you will see them culling the odd post out of context and trying to misrepresent it! Whenever you see an attack post against me simply check out the author! Guaranteed you will find a FUNDY FREAK at the other end! LOL! I explained to him that having an interest in something does not transfigure into advocacy--but when a person intends to misrepresent you they are going to misrepresent you. PERIOD!! As an atheist, I expect to be attacked by Fundy Freaks. It goes with the territory!! But Brummy generally avoids me because I have sent him scuttling down his rat holes so often!!