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To: Lane3 who wrote (23483)3/18/2012 5:47:31 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
I thought about commenting earlier on the ignorant misunderstanding of Locke's position that appeared in the Wa Post article.

the differentiation Locke made between individuals and the religious establishment.

"In Locke’s view, Catholics can worship as they wish as individuals, but their institution is a danger to the liberal order. "

I know that you're not inclined toward fine analytical differentiations, but the difference between an individual, his religion, and the religious establishment is so gross that it should be able to register
.

Now that I see you're mindlessly echoing it, I guess I'll have to point out that you're wrong that Locke favored tolerance of Catholics as individuals and was only intolerant of the Catholic church institution per se. Actually his basis for saying the Catholic church shouldn't be tolerated was because 'all those who enter into it do thereby ipso facto deliver themselves up to the protection and service of another prince'.

Clealy, when he says 'all those who enter into it' he is talking about individual Catholics, saying they're disloyal simply by being Catholic. Just as he said atheists shouldn't be tolerated because they by definition couldn't be trusted as individuals as to promises, covenants, and oaths. In both cases, the cause of intolerance is rooted in the fault of the individual atheist or Catholic.

If Locke were intolerant of the Catholic church because it was a religious institution, he would have favored intolerance of the Church of England and other Protestant churches, but he didn't.

So your fine analytical differentiation is actually a fictional analytical differentiation.

I guess I need to add that I'm describing Locke's opinion, not my own.