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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (13053)3/20/2012 9:02:09 AM
From: MakeMyDay2 Recommendations  Respond to of 85487
 
GREAT answer.

I also saw Juan Williams on O'Reilly last night. They were showing the video that Pelosi's daughter made where a bunch of guys who never worked and never planned to were bragging about how they live off entitlements. Juan said 'Yeah, well what about the seniors who are screaming about cutting Medicare?'

Sick.



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (13053)3/20/2012 9:20:11 AM
From: Bearcatbob2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
The whole point of this is that the SS money was spent and the obligation was recorded as Interagency Debt. To pay back that debt to SS the feds have to increase the publicly held debt. When you hear anyone say our debt is not greater than our GDP it is because they do not count the Interagency Debt. Currently all Interagency Debt is being converted to Publicly Held debt. The bottom line is that our debt is greater than 100% of GDP - and that ain't good!



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (13053)3/20/2012 10:35:28 AM
From: TimF  Respond to of 85487
 
If you want to make sure that it isn't used for anything else, you would have to either require that the government has to run an overall surplus as big as any surplus from the SS tax over SS spending, or change the law so that instead of the money being required to go in to treasury debt, it is instead not allowed to be invested in treasury debt. Otherwise any time the SS system runs a surplus the money is going to be spent on something else, and not even so much as a political decision, just by the government spending its income.

But maybe that's not such an issue anymore now that SS is running a deficit. There is no extra money to be spent anywhere else anymore.



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (13053)3/20/2012 4:17:26 PM
From: Farmboy1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 85487
 
Well, the government can take your SS contributions and spend them for anything they wish ....

They frequently raid the SS fund and take the funding, and 'pay it back' with an IOU...

If that is a 'separate account' .... you surely use different criteria to define it than do I.

Surely you were aware democrats voted to begin that practice several years ago?