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Pastimes : Metaphysics and Spiritual Practices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jane Hafker who wrote (247)	11/26/1997 8:53:00 PM
From: Harmattan	Respond to of 650

To all, #@#&^+\|\|%$#@#&^% sheesh, people are going to think we are the Adams Family on this thread, the way we carry on. I'm not sure which character I get to be but I'm sure I deserve it. Given several of the recent posts I feel it would be inappropriate for me not to respond. To Jane, First, the word you were looking for is Ouroboros. I am acquainted with its symbolism. However, for the life of me I cannot figure out how you concluded that this symbol is an adequate representation "of my entire religious and philosophic life". I must also take exception to the characterization of the ouroboros as primary in importance second only to the cross. The geometric circle, though similar to the ouroboros, is infinitely richer in content. I would suggest the cross within the circle is the greatest symbol of all. Correctly understood, its explanatory power encompasses all relationships extending from center along radius to periphery. The following link presents many photographs of depictions of the ouroboros as it is found around the world. best.com Jane I sincerely appreciate the tone of your last post to me. Its thoughtfulness of the other is an attitude conducive to interaction. And thanks for reminding me of my post (How dare you run away...); a good lesson to me in practice what you preach. But I would like to clarify one thing which goes to the heart of what "offends" me. I think all on this thread are mature enough to understand that the personally directed remark is not malicious in intent; in fact it is usually just humor or sly but well intentioned fun that is lost in the translation across this medium. However, on another level I do find us to be falling into a recursive cycle of by implication "my spiritual condition, my faith, my path is better than your...". The implication may or may not be true but one thing for sure it is a self defeating form of discussion if the goal is to state and examine ideas through poetry and prose. I am as guilty as anyone. I don't know how to get around it. But I do get bored if this cycle is all we can achieve. I'm not sure if this is a complete thought or if it even says what I wanted to say but I'll stop here. I will be leaving the thread soon for a period of time. This is not a reflection on past exchanges. I have some things that require my attention. ghunk