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To: average joe who wrote (23517)	3/25/2012 10:00:51 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Quite agree with & how can you think of nature as anything else but dynamic fluxuating systems that on larger scales are cyclical in nature which influence changing landscapes & envirionments above & below the earths crust & atmosphere , looking all the way back in the lens of geologic time . The earth periodically shifts its axis rotation & also the electromagnetic field and there have been several major epochs that were global changing events if were looking all the way back . As you're trying to point out science itself is evolving as it generates new data & interpretation of how that effects the peerception of the whole integration of cyclical systems in place that are the larger engines that drive oceanic currents , continental drift & atmospheric flux . The you add man himself which now seems a bright light bulb going off in many heads , one of those "ahaha" moments that we see ourselves as another one of those new epochs where effects of our activities over time at present rates are having global impacts creating new stresses on local systems by diversion , damming , mining , fishing , transporting , chemical & materials manufacturing , farming , transporting , consumming on mass scales & dealing with the waste billions of us produce . (daily)

To: average joe who wrote (23517)	3/25/2012 10:19:44 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Yet just look at the tendency for those idyllic cozy views of perfect balance that inhabited men's thinking philosophically trying to comprehend the mind of God . Sure there's an intimation of perfect balance if looking out over a grove of long lived olive trees and thinking only in terms of 10-20 generations of human lives and then there's also the rising /setting of the sun & moon & stars in perfect eternal celestial order (Of course theres the occasional fig tree that gets out of whack and a few well placed curses from the messiah takes care of that ) But go back & grab Archimedes and stand him next to a Cat 797 earth mover & take him out to an open copper mine or let him watch a fleet of Boeing 747s & 767's taking off & landing at any airport & he will have to think his claim of moving the earth had come true . One looks back to invention of steam engines then the gas/internal combustion engines and street sweepers were overjoyed that they didn't have piles of manure to clean up every day . That sure happened at the right time , for man's cities were getting so large it would be hard to imagine the piles of horse dung they had to deal with every day at the end . Then comes the next 60yrs leading up to airpollution controls & fight over emmissions/catalytic converters and you should have seen the fuss being made by conservatives then over that brew . There were also other industrial emmission controls set in place around mining towns & manufacturing centers after major fatal events of posinous gas releases killed 100's & 1000's , people choked to their early deaths . * No porta~pottys in heaven though , we'll all be little glowing moonbeams basking silently in the glory of light, except for the occasional disruptions even up in heaven from less mature souls like greg ...who will probably even manage to screw up God's perfect home with poopy pants & potty brain ! lol

To: average joe who wrote (23517)	3/27/2012 4:15:08 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

“Never has been, never will be. On the contrary, nature is always out of balance ... that means that mankind, which was formerly defined as the great disrupter of the natural order, is nothing of the sort. The whole environment is being constantly disrupted all the time anyway." “ But human life requires a certain set of conditions which is quite different than the notion of “balance”. The conditions for existence remain what they are and it requires that we utilize the resources of nature in a certain way…