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To: hdl who wrote (186034)3/27/2012 2:10:47 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 541982
 
" the teen shouldn't have hit zimmerman. zimmerman would not have shot the teen if the teen had not brutally beaten zimmerman."

So, in your mind, being beaten up by a disturbed kid half your weight and age is justification for pursing the kid resulting in a homicide? Not in MY world! In my world, you let the police ( on the way ) arrest him and have him charged with assault. The CIVILIZED way.

As a neighborhood watch person, Zimmerman was supposed to watch and report. NOT police the area. All of this stemmed from him going beyond his authority and playing policeman.



To: hdl who wrote (186034)3/27/2012 2:16:38 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541982
 
"i would think the man and incident should be investigated."

they weren't, until the parents brought the story to the media maybe 2 weeks after the event. That's why the fuss now.

Whose blood on the shirt? We don't know; not taken for evidence. Was he drunk? We don't know; no BAL or drug test. Did they check Trayvon's phone to see if he was maybe talking to a drug dealer? (We do know that...nope, and he wasn't) Did cops question witnesses? Not when they contradicted Zimmerman...

The Sanford Police Department has been accused of making several mistakes in the Trayvon Martin investigation, including claims by witnesses who say they were ignored. Walt Zalisko, the former Chief of Police in Oak Hill, Florida, shares his thoughts on the case.
>>so much. the sanfordpolice department is being accused of making several mistakes in this investigation. witnesses have come forward with claims that police ignored them and police have admitted to not noticing georgezimmerman's profanity on those 911 tapes. joining me now, the former chief of police in oak hill. a town in central florida. and he is now a private investigator at the global investigative group. it is good to have you here. and your insights will be certainly telling as we take a peek at the facts in all of this. you've already told the "miami herald" that you've never seen such an incompetent investigation. when you look at the facts of this and what we see in hindsight over the past 27 days, what makes competent to say that?

>>there have been a lot of missteps in the investigation. for instance, it was the family's attorney who discovered the phone calls to the girlfriend. the police had that cell phone at the time. they could have checked to see the cell phone log sheets to see who he was talking to. did they contact the girlfriend? we don't know. based on the reports, they didn't contact her. just, that they didn't charge mr. zimmerman right away is rather unusual because central florida, in particular, has a history of charging individuals right away. and they'll leave it up to the judges or a jury to decide guilt or innocence.

>>george -- excuse me. when we talk about georgezimmerman, the self-appointed neighborhood watchman who pulled the trigger, the police chief that they don't have grounds to arrest him because of probable cause. don't you think in light of all the things that have come forward now, that they know they have grounds, at least to arrest him. maybe not to go ahead with charging him but to arrest him and to take him into custody.

>>absolutely. they had the evidence at the time. the fact that they didn't arrest him is really questionable why. we have to look back. sanfordpolice department has a history of problems with the black community. maybe that's why they were reluctant on charging georgezimmerman with killing trayvon.

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How seriously did the cops take the case?
Trayvon Martin in morgue 3 days as 'John Doe' after mom reported him missing

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