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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (186293)	3/30/2012 12:11:59 AM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542139

China is buying tons of everything. I'm always stumbling on some amazing factoid or other about China - the two I remember offhand are that China produces half the world's coal, and half the world's concrete also. As far as China and cheap junk, they do produce that, but they probably produce half or more of the world's electronics too, at least the final assembly. To follow up Cogito's post about Apple, there was this NYT article from January, nytimes.com , which I previously noted in Message 27896622 . If you plow through the details (it's long) , you'd see that China actually has enviable resources to draw on in production capability that the US will probably never match. They can put things into production really fast, and have great technical infrastructure at this point. They aren't that good at originated new products, yet, but considering how far they have progressed in 30-odd years, it'd be silly to think that they won't eventually master that, too. I occasionally read this hardcore Apple blogger who worships at the temple Jobs built. His last post was about how Tim Cook understands Chinese business better that anybody in China does, or something ridiculous like that. There will come a time when China has no desire to make $2 or so for doing all the production work on a gadget that Apple makes $ 200-$300 on, because they'll have plenty of locally designed stuff to keep busy with. Then things will get really interesting.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (186293)	3/30/2012 6:33:56 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 542139

A lot of differences between me and Obama. I would have hired Stiglitz, Krugman and Volker to address the economy, Howard Dean as Health and Human Services Director and lead on health care reform, Westley Clark for any number of positions (1st in his class at Westpoint and a liberal), homeland security, Pentagon, chief of Staff, CIA, and fire breathing young liberal geniuses for the Supreme court. LIke Hillary Clinton, Jennifer Granholm, or Elizabeth Warren. Bill Moyers and Robert Reich for cabinet positions, etc. It is amusing though when I go on right wing threads and they talk about Obama being a communist or socialist and I say: "no Obama is a mild mannered right of center moderate", I am a socialist. And if I am lucky someone will show up and back me up-lol. I do get a chuckle at how confused they get.