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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (479790)3/31/2012 9:13:18 AM
From: skinowski4 Recommendations  Respond to of 793911
 
The Marxian type of atheism is not moved at all by pity; on the contrary, it is pitiless. In order to procure power and riches for the social collectivity it proclaims ruthless cruelty towards men. There is no humanitarian element left in it. It comes from Feuerbach, but it goes one further than him and rejects his religion of humanity. It was not in the name of man that Marx raised the standard of revolt, but in the name of the mightiness of a new deity, the social collectivity. He is not so much moved by pity for the suffering humiliated proletariat, longing to alleviate its sufferings and liberate it from humiliation, as by the idea of the coming might and power of the proletariat, the future messiah destined to organise an earthly empire. The pathos of Marx is, above all, one of power ; it is full of strength and longs for conquest ; it is a victorious psychology. He wants man, as a social and socialised being, to become a powerful organiser and constructor.

The quote is from Nicholas Berdyaev. I run into this book last night, and it proved to be a page turner. The man started out as a Marxist, and ended up being a prominent religious philosopher. He discusses here the leftist movements in Russia, but some parallels with our times are uncanny. I link the book below. Just to give another example of how some things never change, here is a fascinating factoid -- back in 1905, after the Japanese demolished the Russian fleet, a large group of well known members of the Russian intelligentsia wrote a letter to the Emperor of Japan to congratulate him on the great victory. Somehow, this sounds familiar.

evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/berdyaev.htm



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (479790)3/31/2012 10:38:46 AM
From: TideGlider  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793911
 
Yes, that is true. Best for THEM and the country. That includes a swift reduction in population numbers and conservatives being sent to re-education camps or killed. But hey, that is to far down the road for those voters to figure out if they are to be part of such a reduction. ;^)

I don't know what Obama has in his heart. But socialists generally do believe that whatever they want is best for the country.