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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (23559)	3/31/2012 2:10:30 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 42652

The liberals consistently asserted, in their questions, the notion that ALL people are effectively entering into commerce by virtue of their very existence: Everyone sooner or later will require health care By that argument a broccoli mandate would be supported to even a greater extent. All people use food. While its not true that all people use health care services. A few never have such services. A much larger number never get healthcare that they couldn't personally afford. Its hardly unheard of for someone to go their entire life without health insurance, charity health care or uncompensated emergency health care. And of course even if you are eventually going to enter a market, you aren't in it yet. Until you actually buy or sell or barter the good or service you aren't engaging in any commerce in that good or service.

To: i-node who wrote (23559)	3/31/2012 2:25:17 PM
From: Lane3	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

the notion that ALL people are effectively entering into commerce by virtue of their very existence This is one thing I don't get about the argument. Sure, they are entering into commerce, but which market? They are not entering the telecommunications market or the agricultural products market. They are entering the health care market but not necessarily the health care insurance market. In my mind, those latter two are two different markets. Saying that one will eventually inevitably end up in the health care market doesn't necessarily mean that one will end up in the health care insurance market. The argument conflates the two.