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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (14303)	4/2/2012 12:50:28 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 85487

Right! And so who pays for that? YOU DO! (Not for the charity payments for charged care, but yes for the uncompensated care) And if you mug health insurance companies to pay for pre-existing conditions that also raises costs, and we pay for it as well. If you subsidize insurance for some, or put in place price controls which force the price down for some, or just have the government pay for it, again we do (either as patients, or as purchasers of insurance, or as tax payers). As I just said to Koan, its all about other people paying except for the rich who choose to self-insure, or those who voluntary (two way voluntary) buy insurance at a full market rate, without any government coverage mandates or other severe intervention that drives up prices. Actually in a sense even that last is still about others paying, just others paying voluntarily and in a more reasonable way. Even if someone pays full market insurance premiums, those premiums would amount to a small portion of some very expensive series of treatments. Other people are still paying, its just that in this case they agreed to pool the risk, and contracted to do so.