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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (128808)	4/3/2012 6:32:36 PM
From: CF Rebel	7 Recommendations Respond to of 224748

Obama has taken the gloves off. Is he ever going to take the diapers off? CF Rebel

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (128808)	4/3/2012 6:35:54 PM
From: TideGlider	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224748

Obama just got knocked out by the appeals court 5th District. You can't wear the gloves home lol April 3, 2012 3:42 PM Appeals court fires back at Obama's comments on health care case By Jan Crawford Topics Supreme Court (Credit: AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster) (CBS News) In the escalating battle between the administration and the judiciary, a federal appeals court apparently is calling the president's bluff -- ordering the Justice Department to answer by Thursday whether the Obama Administration believes that the courts have the right to strike down a federal law, according to a lawyer who was in the courtroom. The order, by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, appears to be in direct response to the president's comments yesterday about the Supreme Court's review of the health care law. Mr. Obama all but threw down the gauntlet with the justices, saying he was "confident" the Court would not "take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress." Overturning a law of course would not be unprecedented -- since the Supreme Court since 1803 has asserted the power to strike down laws it interprets as unconstitutional. The three-judge appellate court appears to be asking the administration to admit that basic premise -- despite the president's remarks that implied the contrary. The panel ordered the Justice Department to submit a three-page, single-spaced letter by noon Thursday addressing whether the Executive Branch believes courts have such power, the lawyer said. The panel is hearing a separate challenge to the health care law by physician-owned hospitals. The issue arose when a lawyer for the Justice Department began arguing before the judges. Appeals Court Judge Jerry Smith immediately interrupted, asking if DOJ agreed that the judiciary could strike down an unconstitutional law. The DOJ lawyer, Dana Lydia Kaersvang, answered yes -- and mentioned Marbury v. Madison, the landmark case that firmly established the principle of judicial review more than 200 years ago, according to the lawyer in the courtroom. Smith then became "very stern," the source said, telling the lawyers arguing the case it was not clear to "many of us" whether the president believes such a right exists. The other two judges on the panel, Emilio Garza and Leslie Southwick--both Republican appointees--remained silent, the source said. Smith, a Reagan appointee, went on to say that comments from the president and others in the Executive Branch indicate they believe judges don't have the power to review laws and strike those that are unconstitutional, specifically referencing Mr. Obama's comments yesterday about judges being an "unelected group of people." I've reached out to the White House for comment, and will update when we have more information.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (128808)	4/3/2012 6:51:33 PM
From: TideGlider	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224748

I can see Obama now...arms sprawled as he lay prone on the mat...

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (128808)	4/4/2012 8:40:18 AM
From: JakeStraw	3 Recommendations Respond to of 224748

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (128808)	4/4/2012 8:49:40 AM
From: TideGlider	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224748

From "a reported opinion blog on news media" at the Washington Post: NBC issues apology on Zimmerman tape screw-up By Erik Wemple April 3, 2012 NBC has completed its investigation into the mishandling of the police dispatcher's conversation with George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case. And the process ends with a finding of error, plus an apology. Here is the statement just issued by the network: During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made in the production process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to our viewers… Notice how little coverage this latest new low in journalism has gotten from the mainstream media. In fact, this is probably the full extent of it. And this is from "a reported opinion blog on news media" at the Washington Post. Most people will never hear about this apology, although millions heard the original NBC report. Also notice that even though this apology is from a purported 'news organization,' we are not told the 'who, what where or why' of the incident. Or even 'the how.' Apparently, it is none of our beeswax. So we will never know who did this, and why, and how it was allowed to happen, or if anyone will be punished. Furthermore, it is not even accurate. An "error" is an unintentional act. What NBC did was clearly a deliberate and malicious distortion of the facts. In fact, you have to believe that they feel like their only 'error' was misrepresenting Zimmerman's words so obviously that they got caught. They are promising to be more subtle in the future. And, as even the author of this blog opinion piece notes, while NBC apologizes to its viewers, it does not apologize to George Zimmerman or his family. All in all, it strikes us as being just about as heartfelt as Spike Lee apologizing for tweeting the wrong address for Zimmerman. — But let's hope NBC will end up paying a nice settlement, like Mr. Lee did. And like they paid to Richard Jewell." sweetness-light.com