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To: koan who wrote (14668)4/4/2012 7:14:09 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 85487
 
Again that isn't true (at least your first claim that "almost all" clearly isn't true, and "most" is at least questionable) if you mean

"The world is rapidly warming solely or overwhelmingly because of human emission of CO2, and this warming is clear and certain beyond all reasonable doubt, and it will cause a major disaster if we don't stop it, so we should rapidly cut back on CO2 emissions in a big way.

If OTOH you mean something like "CO2 is a greenhouse gas", or "the average world temperature now is warmer than it was a hundred years ago", then almost all scientists would agree, but you would also get plenty of Republicans supporting the claim.

So you can only make your point if you equivocate on the meaning of AGW. Its the first definition when your talking about Republicans (so you can say almost all of them disagree), but the later definitions, or something along those lines for the scientists (so you can say that they almost all agree). That's confusing, and unreasonable, and if you realize your doing it, dishonest.

Rather than me providing some definitions, why don't you provide your own definition that almost all Republicans would disagree with but almost all scientists agree with?

"AGW" can mean a lot of different specific claims, pick one and make your statement about it, rather than equivocating about different meanings of the term, or falsely representing the views that would get support from all but a tiny portion of scientists, or not get support from at least a solid minority of Republicans.



To: koan who wrote (14668)4/5/2012 9:04:45 AM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation  Respond to of 85487
 
wrong, again