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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (129158)	4/6/2012 1:47:27 PM
From: TideGlider	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224759

The law must have been flawed. Many times laws don't reflect the title of the legislation. Tonto might be familiar with that legislation.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (129158)	4/6/2012 2:55:39 PM
From: lorne	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224759

Evolving U.S. ties with Brotherhood monitored By Mike Wereschagin, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW Friday, July 1, 2011 pittsburghlive.com Jewish groups and supporters expressed concern on Thursday about the Obama administration's decision to re-engage with an Egyptian Islamist group before parliamentary elections in that country. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she would reach out to the Muslim Brotherhood in a "limited" effort to build ties with the group, as long as it espouses nonviolence. Jewish groups for months have worried about the Brotherhood's rise to prominence because it does not recognize Israel's right to exist and has ties to Hamas. "This is something we're concerned about and are going to be watching very carefully," said Deborah Fidel, executive director of the Pittsburgh Area Jewish Committee, an independent affiliate of the American Jewish Committee. "Anything that would give legitimacy to the Muslim Brotherhood, (which) has fueled hostility and anti-American and anti-Western and anti-Israel sentiment, is a concern." Deposed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak banned the Brotherhood from forming a political party. It remained Egypt's largest and best-organized opposition group, however, fielding candidates for parliamentary elections as independents to skirt the ban. When popular uprisings brought down Mubarak's regime, worry spread that the Brotherhood was positioned to gain power. "I have grave concerns about how the Muslim Brotherhood's role in a future Egyptian government will impact the United States' and Israel's national security," said Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Lehigh Valley. "It should not be lost on anyone that the Palestinian Islamist terrorism movement Hamas was created in 1987 as a wing of the Muslim Brotherhood to establish a militant opposition to Israel." Toomey said he would "continue to closely monitor the administration's outreach." Former Gov. Ed Rendell, who is Jewish, said he wasn't familiar with the specifics of the re-engagement, but he believes the United States has practical reasons for reaching out. "In foreign policy, I think it's important we talk to everyone," Rendell said. Sen. Bob Casey Jr.'s spokeswoman, April Mellody, noted that Casey, D-Scranton, wrote in an opinion piece in February during the Egyptian uprising: "The U.S. would be well served to treat this group with a serious degree of skepticism. The burden of proof is on the Brotherhood as it seeks to engage in the political process. It must show that it would indeed abide by the Camp David Peace Accord, that violence is not a legitimate form of expression and that the Egyptian people deserve a secular government that provides for freedoms of expression, religion, and assembly." It's been more than a month since President Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu publicly disagreed over the framework of a peace deal with Palestinians. The disagreement prompted Republicans to try to drive a wedge between the Democratic president and Jewish voters, an important voting bloc for Democrats. Among the areas of GOP focus was Florida, a key swing state. Clinton said the decision to reach out isn't a policy shift. "The Obama administration is continuing the approach of limited contacts with the Muslim Brotherhood that has existed on and off for about five or six years," Clinton said. She said those contacts are predicated on a "commitment to nonviolence, respect for minority rights and the full inclusion of women in any democracy. You cannot leave out half the population and claim that you are committed to democracy." "If there are elements within the organization that have taken a stand toward moderation and pragmatism," it might be in America's interest to engage them, Fidel said. "We recognize that Egypt is a crucial ally of the United States and that this new coalition may be the only alternative to the oppressive former Mubarak regime," she said. "... We have to enter into any discussions with our eyes open."

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (129158)	4/6/2012 4:45:43 PM
From: TimF	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224759

Not allowing people to sue a company for their relative pay levels decades ago isn't a war on women, its positive for women.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (129158)	4/6/2012 5:27:33 PM
From: locogringo	4 Recommendations Respond to of 224759

kenny_troll vomits more trash talk: Part of the Republicans War on Women. It appears that the War on Women is being waged by Obama (THE MUSLIM TOTAL FAILURE) and the Democrats. The Repubs will be announcing these figures next week. Unemployment for women has gone UP UP UP under Obama the Muslim. Women are lagging behind men in the nation's slow economic recovery, new government statistics show. Of the 1.3 million jobs created in the last 12 months, some 90 percent have gone to men, according to a report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Women have gained just 149,000 jobs. abcnews.go.com Next................

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (129158)	4/6/2012 7:30:12 PM
From: tonto	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224759

Correct. He is working to find more employment for Wisconsin residents. WUWM NEWS \| MAR 20, 2012 Gov. Scott Walker will sign a number of bills into law this week. They’re the result of the Legislature’s final, regular flood period of the year. It ended last week. One bill the governor might sign would limit the damages a worker could seek from an employer in discrimination cases. As WUWM’s Ann-Elise Henzl reports, the measure – like many this session – was touted as a “pro-business” reform. For the last couple of years, Wisconsin has had a law called the Equal Pay Enforcement Act. The previous Legislature approved it, in 2009. “I originally introduced this legislation because I was concerned over the disparity in wages between men and women in our workforce," said Democratic state Sen. Dave Hansen of Green Bay, testifying at a hearing last fall. “Women nationally earn approximately 77 cents on the dollar compared to men. Here in Wisconsin, women earn 75 percent of that earned by their male colleagues,” Hansen says. Wisconsin’s Equal Rights Division reviews accusations of workplace discrimination, and if founded, can order the employer to pay a worker back wages and perhaps rehire the person. Hansen’s Equal Pay Enforcement Act gave the worker the additional option of going to state court to sue for compensatory and punitive damages. This session, the GOP-led Legislature approved a bill repealing the act. West Bend Republican Sen. Glenn Grothman authored the measure. “This is an important bill because it improves Wisconsin’s business climate. To continue to have a law on Wisconsin books which makes it less advantageous to do business in Wisconsin than our surrounding states is not good for men or women,” Grothman says. Grothman insists it’s too expensive for businesses to protect themselves from the threat of compensatory and punitive damages. Likewise, Milwaukee attorney Tom O’Day urged lawmakers to repeal the act. He has represented companies in Wisconsin. “More than anything in my experience, businesses are looking for stability and predictability from state government. And when punitive and compensatory damages are available for employees to claim in discrimination cases at the state level, there’s less predictability -- and costs to a business -- and that leads to less investment and employees in the business and in the state of Wisconsin,” O’Day says. O’Day says the Equal Pay Enforcement Act also threatens to clog the state court system with complaints against employers. He says, even if Wisconsin repeals its law, victims of workplace discrimination retain another option for pursuing damages. “The processes for punitive and compensatory damages, those remedies are available under federal law. And if an employee truly feels – if their legal counsel and others – truly feel that punitive and compensatory damages are something that is applicable and something that they would like to go after, they have that route on the federal side,” O’Day says. The federal court system has drawbacks, according to Mequon attorney Gordon Leech. He represents people filing claims of workplace discrimination. “The discovery rules in federal court are just more burdensome and expensive, and harder to comply with,” Leech says. Besides, Leech says, the state’s Equal Pay Enforcement Act offers an advantage over federal lawsuits: under state law, workers can sue for a wider range of discrimination. “Marital status, sexual orientation, arrest or conviction record and military service,” Leech says. Marquette University Business Professor Cheryl Maranto says she understands both sides’ perspectives. “I totally understand from the employers' perspective the threat of a suit is a big deal and that indeed there are also frivolous suits and frivolous complaints that are filed,” Moranto says. Yet Maranto says there’s no evidence the existing state law is clogging the courts. She says complaints must first make it through the Equal Rights Division investigation and hearing process. During the past couple of years, an average of fewer than 40 cases qualified, and none has made it to court. “When you have 37 cases that are even potentially subject to compensatory and punitive damages, that’s just not evidence that this is a big problem that employers are being weighed down by this terrible burden. Plus, if they’ve been discriminating, they should be weighed down upon for that behavior,” Moranto says. Gov. Walker’s office says he is still reviewing the issue.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (129158)	4/6/2012 8:24:28 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	8 Recommendations Respond to of 224759

Walker is working for the greater good of all the people of Wisconsin - not merely for bullying union members.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (129158)	4/7/2012 3:18:37 AM
From: MJ	7 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224759

From the brief discussion that followed here on this board it appears that it was not Walker but the Legislature that sent the bill to his desk. Sorry, Kenneth intelligent women are not buying this femi-nazi stuff. The legislation that was repealed by the State Legislature is the kind of legislation that was passed during the height of the feminist demands for government daycare centers ------turning their job as mothers and domestic engineers over to the government. The women abrogated by necessity their jobs to the government to become a two wage earner family as most men also had a job. There were such phrases as "comparable pay for comparable work'---that changed to "comparable pay for equal work" and then to 'equal pay for equal work'. As has historically been true, the phrasing changed according to what the left thought would help to pass their agenda. The gestalt was then set in place making it necessary for both the husband and wife to work outside of the home. That meant that the majority of the children's time would be spent under the care of the Federal Government mandates from morning to dark. Under that formula, women were literally forced into the paid job market to keep abreast of inflation. Today we are reaping the effect of that thinking-------not benefits, as it became necessary monetarily for both husband and wife to work outside of the home. Today, we are seeing the effect of that early feminist thinking in society. That early feminst thinking was wrong, it did not work. How wonderful for Wisconsin to be free of one more piece of legislation that often gets into frivolous law suits where the only people who win are the lawyers who get paid.