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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87136)	4/12/2012 12:45:40 PM
From: Farmboy	Respond to of 89467

No changing hte subject ... you're the one keeps dodging the 'subjects' Such as how DO you know what a dog's ass smells like, anyway? Guess you just like the taste of toe jam.

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87136)	4/12/2012 1:39:31 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

Legal experts say second-degree murder charge may be hard to prove in Trayvon Martin case As I said yesterday when I first heard that George Zimmerman was going to be charged, I'm trying hard to keep an open mind and I'm anxious to hear the evidence that the prosecutor has to prove second-degree murder. Now, legal experts are essentially saying the same thing: Legal experts said the circumstances of the shooting suggest that prosecutors will have a hard time proving that Zimmerman was acting with a "depraved mind" when he pulled the trigger -- the standard for second-degree murder. "Based on the available facts, it's a huge overreach," said Miami defense attorney John Priovolos, a former prosecutor, who said Corey will be hard pressed to show Zimmerman had "ill-will, spite, malice or hatred" needed to prove a "depraved mind." Former Miami-Dade senior prosecutor David Waksman cautioned that the public must wait for all the evidence to be unveiled, but acknowledged that "this is not going to be an easy case." I'm not going to apologize for feeling that the prosecutor's decision to charge Zimmerman with second-degree murder had more to do with politics and catering to race baiters like Sharpton, Holder, Obama, Jessie Jackson and the New Black Panthers than it did with the facts in the case and justice, and more to do with emotion than logic and reason. This feeling was bolstered by the fact that the first words out of the prosecutor's mouth at her press conference were that she had called Trayvon's parents and that it was the search for 'justice for Trayvon' that brought her to this moment (see first 30 seconds of video below): http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2012/04/legal_experts_s.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter The more I think about this .... the wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head - which we know were there, which I'm sure photos of will be presented to the jury - will mean that Zimmerman will NOT be convicted. That's hard evidence of a self-defense claim. The witness testimony that Martin was on top of Zimmerman will cement it. The fact that the fight went on for a minute or two before the shooting occured - we all heard the 911 call of shouting and screaming before the gunshot - will be icing on the cake. Zimmerman will walk. That's my prediction.

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87136)	4/12/2012 3:08:07 PM
From: joseffy	Respond to of 89467

Police to White Victim: We 'Don't Mess' with Black Gang by Selwyn Duke April 10, 2012 See also: Birmingham News Drops the Ball on Black-on-white Crime Most of us have heard about how the media won't report on black-on-white crime. We also may know that authorities sometimes sweep it under the rug due to political pressure, usually with a wink and a nod. But not so in rural Alabama, where the police actually told a white crime victim that they "don't mess" with a local black motorcycle gang. The tragic event that led to this shocking admission occurred on March 28, as truck driver Nick Stokes and neighbor Johnathan Cooper were heading out of Birmingham hauling a portable cabin. While rounding a curve, one of Stokes' tires slipped and kicked up some gravel, which angered a black motorcycle-gang member who was in close proximity. The gangster -- part of the notorious "Outcasts of Alabama" -- gave chase and tried to force Stokes to pull over to the side of the road. Here's what happened next, as reported by the Macon Beacon's Scott Boyd, whose piece has been published online by J. Christian Adams: The motorcyclist then sped up and pulled in front of Stokes [sic] F-250. He stopped in the middle of the road and forced Stokes to stop. He then jumped off his bike and came around to the passenger side and hit the rear passenger window with his fist but it didn't break. Stokes then made the quick decision to get out of there and pulled out around the parked motorcycle. Stokes said he looked back in his rear-view as he pulled away and noticed the biker rolling in the highway. "He either tried to jump in the back of the truck or onto the trailer and somehow slipped." Stokes said when he noticed the injured man flailing in the roadway he stopped, worried about leaving the scene of an accident. Stokes said he was getting out of his truck to go check on Clay when a woman in a red Jeep pulled alongside and shouted a warning: "You better get out of here - they've got guns." That's when Stokes looked back down the highway and [saw] some the motorcycle gang - 30 or 40 bikes strong - headed his way. "I jumped back in the truck and took off until I could find a busy intersection and that's where I stopped." Stokes said he and Cooper were immediately surrounded by a gang of black bikers, all with black bandanas covering the bottom half of their faces. The gang forced him out of the truck and commenced their revenge attack. "After I saw the knife and then felt the stabbings I fell to the ground and played dead - I think that may have saved my life," he said. Stokes heard police sirens seconds later, as his friend, Cooper, had called 911 on his cellphone. But despite the authorities having identified the injured gangster as Ladarrious Clay of Birmingham, none of the bikers were detained or even questioned, reports Boyd. Shocking. And the silence is deafening. Boyd contacted the Birmingham News, only to be told that the incident wasn't "newsworthy." In fact, if J. Christian Adams hadn't published the story at PJ Media, we probably never would have heard about it. The Macon Beacon is so small that it doesn't even have a website. As for the relevant law-enforcement agency, the Adamsville Police Department, its public affairs officer had not responded to Boyd's inquiries as of his press time. Yet it's not as if they had no answers at all. They told Stokes that there was nothing they could do, as it would be impossible to identify those who actually wielded the knives. And then there was that more shocking admission. Both Stokes and Boyd were told the same thing by the Adamsville police. We "don't mess with the Outcasts of Alabama." Wow. Just wow. These guys sound like Barney Fife -- without the guts. We're used to hearing stories about law enforcement being intimidated by organized crime in places such as Colombia and Mexico. But in the US? This is yet another example of our descent into Third Worldism. Stokes also reported the crime to the FBI, which has promised an investigation. The question is, will the agency do anything more than just go through the motions? I don't know, but three things are for sure. First, if this had been an attack by a white gang on a black victim, the national media would be all over the story. Second, Eric Holder's DOJ won't be getting involved like it has in the Trayvon Martin Case. And, lastly, we can be sure that Barack Obama won't get on his soapbox and accuse the Adamsville police of acting stupidly. Read more: americanthinker.com