To: i-node who wrote (651292 ) 4/13/2012 1:09:37 PM From: Brumar89 Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580023 St Louis is still a big producer of beer. And sure, during prohibition there was no beer or wine produced commercially. Making your own beer, wine or whatever at home was never outlawed. Nor was drinking alcohol ever prohibited. Only the commercial manufacture and distribution. Frankly, the decriminalization of drug use that many propose is actually very similar to how prohibition handled alcohol . I don't think you could possibly be trying to characterize prohibition as a success. Yet, it is a fairly precise parallel to the prohibition we now have on marijuana. I haven't tried to assert prohibition as a success. I think it did have some successes, but the cost wasn't worth it. Here's a NYT oped on prohibition's successes: ... First, the regime created in 1919 by the 18th Amendment and the Volstead Act, which charged the Treasury Department with enforcement of the new restrictions, was far from all-embracing. The amendment prohibited the commercial manufacture and distribution of alcoholic beverages; it did not prohibit use, nor production for one's own consumption . Moreover, the provisions did not take effect until a year after passage -plenty of time for people to stockpile supplies. Second, alcohol consumption declined dramatically during Prohibition. Cirrhosis death rates for men were 29.5 per 100,000 in 1911 and 10.7 in 1929. Admissions to state mental hospitals for alcoholic psychosis declined from 10.1 per 100,000 in 1919 to 4.7 in 1928 . Arrests for public drunkennness and disorderly conduct declined 50 percent between 1916 and 1922. For the population as a whole, the best estimates are that consumption of alcohol declined by 30 percent to 50 percent. Third, violent crime did not increase dramatically during Prohibition. Homicide rates rose dramatically from 1900 to 1910 but remained roughly constant during Prohibition's 14 year rule. Organized crime may have become more visible and lurid during Prohibition, but it existed before and after. Fourth, following the repeal of Prohibition, alcohol consumption increased. Today, alcohol is estimated to be the cause of more than 23,000 motor vehicle deaths and is implicated in more than half of the nation's 20,000 homicides . In contrast, drugs have not yet been persuasively linked to highway fatalities and are believed to account for 10 percent to 20 percent of homicides. Prohibition did not end alcohol use. What is remarkable, however, is that a relatively narrow political movement, relying on a relatively weak set of statutes, succeeded in reducing, by one-third, the consumption of a drug that had wide historical and popular sanction. This is not to say that society was wrong to repeal Prohibition. A democratic society may decide that recreational drinking is worth the price in traffic fatalities and other consequences. But the common claim that laws backed by morally motivated political movements cannot reduce drug use is wrong . Not only are the facts of Prohibition misunderstood, but the lessons are misapplied to the current situation. The U.S. is in the early to middle stages of a potentially widespread cocaine epidemic. If the line is held now, we can prevent new users and increasing casualties. So this is exactly not the time to be considering a liberalization of our laws on cocaine. We need a firm stand by society against cocaine use to extend and reinforce the messages that are being learned through painful personal experience and testimony. The real lesson of Prohibition is that the society can, indeed, make a dent in the consumption of drugs through laws. There is a price to be paid for such restrictions, of course . But for drugs such as heroin and cocaine, which are dangerous but currently largely unpopular, that price is small relative to the benefits . nytimes.com