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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: tonto who wrote (129973)	4/13/2012 6:33:46 PM
From: Follies	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224741

Kenneth hears what he wants to hear. If he wanted to hear unicorns he would hear unicorns.

To: tonto who wrote (129973)	4/16/2012 2:47:37 AM
From: FJB	4 Recommendations Respond to of 224741

*Why Nothing Sticks to [the transparent]* George Zimmerman** This is a week old, but it has information new to me, that I'm sure few know. Not only was Zimmerman questioned for hours the night of the shooting, not only did he take and pass a lie detector test, he also went with police to the scene the next day and re-enacted for them everything that happened, while they filmed him. And he waived his right to a lawyer throughout all this. I agree, if he's made any mistake, any discrepency throughout all this lengthy unprotected process, he'd have been arrested and charged immediately. I am forced to conclude the guy is totally without guile. I'm betting if this goes to a trial, he will take the stand and walk out of the courtroom a free man. by Dan Linehan on April 10, 2012 h/t Brumar By almost any standard, Zimmerman’s legal defense in the Trayvon Martin shooting case has been a sort of ongoing cautionary tale for exactly what not to do if you’re facing potentially serious criminal charges. Almost immediately, within around thirty-seven minutes after the shooting, Zimmerman was already waiving his right to an attorney. He then proceeded to interview with the police for several hours without any legal representation present. This leaves out the stress test he passed and other articles have established the interview lasted five hours. Then the next day, still without any attorney present or legal advice, Zimmerman took the police back to the scene of the shooting at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, andreenacted what happened on the evening of February 26th with them, step-by-step on video. Had Zimmerman’s narrative and recounting of the details of that evening been any less than 100% consistent, that’s the moment when everything would have fallen apart for him — sometime right around February 27th. The police had every reason and opportunity to document and doggedly pursue any differences they saw between Zimmerman’s initial interview and his video re-enactment the following day. Rather than finding anything they could follow up with, what happened instead? The Sanford Police Department was unable to obtain any evidence that would allow them to press even involuntary manslaughter charges against Zimmerman. And no new evidence changed that, even as days and weeks passed. As anyone who follows criminal justice knows, under harsh conditions and during long, station-house interviews, many people will end up confessing to crimes they didn’t even commit. Most people are conditioned from an early age to have a bias towards telling authority figures what they want to hear. BTW I've read the Zimmerman family were very religious Catholics, the father was strict, and the kids were 'Yes, Sir, No Maam' types with people outside the family, especially adults. Police have been known to take skillful advantage of this psychological blind spot to extract confessions and other incriminating information from suspects during interrogations. In one infamous case, four innocent men confessed to committing the same brutal rape and murder after being interrogated without legal counsel. Even when DNA evidence exonerated them, years later, they were still not immediately released, because of the sheer weight a recorded confession carries. Zimmerman not only didn’t confess to any sort of impropriety in his police interviews, he seems to have been 100% consistent in his statements. ...... While some have said it was reckless for Zimmerman to leave his truck at all, the law simply does not codify that. Leaving one’s vehicle inside one’s own neighborhood cannot legally be considered “reckless” behavior, especially when Zimmerman was well-known as being the neighborhood watch captain for the community. Of course, it makes sense that Zimmerman would leave his truck to investigate something he considered suspicious, especially when he was relaying information to a 911 dispatcher. Many people have taken issue with the fact that Zimmerman was armed as well, but legally speaking, it is unlikely to matter. Around 900k Florida residents have have concealed carry licenses. Carrying a weapon in one’s own neighborhood is not uncommon, nor does it have any special impact on this case. There is no evidence thus far that Zimmerman was brandishing his firearm or otherwise using it inappropriately. 900K Floridians licensed to carry is something wannabe tough guys need to know before they decide to jump on someone. ... It may be that Zimmerman simply doesn’t need his legal advisers as badly as most people assumed that he did. Presumably no inconsistencies were found in his statements on February 26th or February 27th. Had there been any serious discrepancies, the police would have already had plenty of rope to hang him with. The crux of the case comes down to what was happening in the sixty seconds preceding the shooting. And those sixty seconds happen to be the part of the encounter we know the most about. There is hard evidence of screams for help on 911 tapes. There is evidence showing Zimmerman’s injuries, including a broken nose, and there is an eye-witness account of Zimmerman being beaten and yelling for help. Not to mention the wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head. Since that time period is going to be the main focus of any investigation, there may not be much Zimmerman’s legal advisers can do here beyond what essentially comes down to public relations. Zimmerman’s transparency .... Zimmerman went further than most would in volunteering to lead his neighborhood watch. He was, by all accounts, extremely thorough over the years in reporting anything suspicious in his neighborhood. He went against all reasonable legal advice when he allowed himself to be interrogated without an attorney present the night of Trayvon Martin’s shooting. Not to mention the following day. ..... http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/why-nothing-sticks-to-george-zimmerman