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To: Amelia Carhartt who wrote (89158)4/16/2012 11:00:36 AM
From: Maurice Winn6 Recommendations  Respond to of 217940
 
<Anyone who doubts the future is China's is living a dream world.> I doubt it. If my world is a dream one, it's a pretty good dream, albeit with plenty of limitations. I'll back freedom and virtue any day of the week. With people like Bo Lai and his murderous wife aka Lady Macbeth running the show, they are not likely to have followers so much as captives.

Maybe you can remember back to the 1980s and everyone [not me] thought Japan was going to rule the world and the Emperor's tennis court was worth more than New Zealand and the Emperor's Palace was worth more than California [or near enough to that]. In fact, it was just another speculative bubble. House prices dropped 90% and stayed there. Nobody is thinking Japan is ruling the world. The followers of fashion now think it's China.

The future belongs to Cyberspace. Governments are trying hard to stop it, while having it. They want to have their cake and eat it. Good luck with that. It is literally a war. Wars are of interests. The most powerful interests tend to win. They are nominally physical, but actually psychological.

Anonymous, Wikileaks and others have joined battle. Hordes of people owe allegiance to Cyberspace in the sense that they earn their living from it. People who earn their living from something owe their allegiance to that, not their nominal country. Countries are just collectives of interests but with the nasty fact that in the absence of Tradable Citizenship, the citizens are serfs rather than owners. So, inherently, most people do not really owe allegiance to their country, though in good old Stockholm Syndrome fashion, they think they do. When people who earn their living from something see others damaging their interests, they get angry and take action.

The USA is in an undeclared civil war between those dependent on government cash flow and those who provide it. Greece has gone on into the actual civil war position over the same split since the borrowings ran out [recently reinstated temporarily]. Nobody can bail out the USA government dependants - there are too many with expectations too large.

China is Stockholm Syndrome writ large, with intentions of fully controlling Cyberspace, which means the people who depend on it for their livelihoods. Good luck with that. People in China are working hard to escape the maw, with officials including Bo stashing loot offshore with a view to getting one foot outside as soon as they can, ready to escape.

Mqurice