To: Greg or e who wrote (25033 ) 4/17/2012 1:38:45 AM From: 2MAR$ 1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300 Honestly, you are so completely dishonest its one of your "winning ways" for sure ... clutter up this thread day after day like an imbecile . Is being so dishonest your way of ignoring the truth ? If God existence is as provable as you say , think for a minute ...why does it require then 2000yrs of unending apologetics to try to convince people he's real ? Why all the extensive treatises after treatise trying to sway people & convince them of an entirely made up fiction by some semi literate horse trader Paul ? How many second comings have we witnessed by so many believers that KNEW he was coming back ? Paul himself wrote that he thought Jesus was going to return in his lifetime , well we're all still waiting . Truth is there is not one original thing in Christianity at all , just made up stories that took to include into itself all the philosophical & cosmological Hermetic wisdom borrowed from the Greek thinkers , there for 500yrs previously & discussed in great detail . Instead of consulting the wisdom of Plato, Socrates & Aristotle you think one is better off joining the mormon Church ? lol Truth is whether you believe in God or not there is a very real sense of the totality , call it the "Cosmos" if you like that includes everyone & encompasses all of us . This was something discussed at great lengths & influenced early Christian thought tremndously what they called the "ALL" & the spirit of the Cosmos and the "Logos" . The reason some people reject this greatest story ever sold is just that , it is obvious to some that the story is as made up to us as you think Mohammed's verses are false . If you are here to convince people that someone rose from the dead your on the wrong thread , get over it ..truth is most Christians if they were honest would say they dont really believe in that either but some like you turn it into some contest where reason doesnt apply . And some of us are not interested in watching your repetitive displays or rote pronouncements . Is life better when one grows & becomes more humble , learns from experience to be more content , studious , considerate ot others , contemplative charitable & compassionate ? Who said Christians have any monopoly on these things ? That's a grand illusion if there ever was one , but try to talk plainly , without the "shrillness" & people would respond in kind.