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To: orkrious who wrote (89326)4/28/2012 8:59:58 PM
From: TobagoJack3 Recommendations  Respond to of 217548
 
in bullet points (no pun intended, or so i should write 'no pun intended' :0) form

my take, and in no particular order

(i) the good guys are winning, and i feel celebratory, more enthusiastic than ever, and absolutely bubbling

(ii) bo xi lai was bad news, not so much because his family is wealthy by means whatever - nothing new there, anywhere in the world, move along, nothing to see

(iii) bo was bad news because he tried to come into power leading to absolute power by means of energizing mao's 'class struggle' at a time such is uncalled for

ignorant mass-supported class struggle leads to absolute power in ways orderly transition can never do, imo, and whether by electioneering or scripted anointment, class struggle, occasionally needed but always to be personally opt-out unless enthusiastic for a bit of fun, is generally bad news

(iv) obama and some euro politicians are also trying to do 'class struggle lite' that may well build up to be necessarily heavy - bears watching, slashing so, imo

(v) the issues that allows bo to make a classic 'class struggle' play are certainly legitimate issues, and now can be addressed without the addressers (who must and must remain fearful) having to watch their flank and essentially be paralyzed re possible ignorant masses manipulated to support political coup

(vi) bo must go, is as good as gone, long live bo as long live mao, bye bye, move along

(vii) the discovery process should clear the deck and shuffle the deck chairs, or shuffle the deck and clear the deck chairs; either way, the clear and present job can be better done

(viii) wang was instructed by beijing central to 'hide' in broad daylight at the sichuan province / chengdu city usa consulate office. bo gave the order for his chongqin (a 30-million municipality that ostensibly reports to beijing and not to the sichuan province to which it used to be a part of) to attack the usa consulate. the chongqin police, complete with some military backing complete with armored cars and possibly opposed by some more serious tanks of the opposing camp hesitate enough so that wang could be picked up and brought to the tale that would set china on a path for the next quarter century.

wang is also no good, but like bo, is now more useful than ever when kept in cage. all left-leaning opposition must now turn into a loyal opposition, or face destiny as caged whispers can point fingers and reveal much to keep determine fate.

this sort of politics tends to be more effective and determining than any bread-n-circus electioneering can ever hope to achieve.

two thumbs up; just super.

now, to focus at the necessary clear and present economic works at hand, elbow and feet.

as to <<What do you think about what it says about China?>>

... it says china is a civilization state ruled by dynastic tradition where political legitimacy arise out of performance, and as and when no performance, the consequences are dire, but the change of dynasty is never willie-by-the-nilly, but bang-on clarifying.

that is not the same as saying one would necessarily enjoy the interim clarification process. in truth one must at times opt out and seek temporary refuge. this is the nature of civilization state.

elections and sham elections are for pop cultures, and once machinated, must devolve. hitler was elected; and so was and ever would be mugabe until not.

believe i have covered the totality of your question, per <<What do you think>> :0)

cheers, tj



To: orkrious who wrote (89326)4/29/2012 7:44:16 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217548
 
follow-up note bo, about 17-20 years ago my brother had a run-in / problem in dalian with folks who turned out to be thuggish, refusing to complete payment for industrial goods delivered, wanted refund of the downpayment, and got rough w/ brother by slapping him.

brother got out of dodge, wrote a letter to bo xilai, a simple note of self intro and case detailing.

normally one would expect such a letter to fall through the cracks and nothing done.

w/i a week the thugs visited my brother's office in beijing and offered cash payment for the goods plus compensation for troubles, and sincere (almost pleading) written as well as verbal apology.

it was at once funny and better than any movie could have been, and certainly much more efficient than any common judiciary system could manage.

on the other hand, the legal system in hong kong can offer much satisfaction as long as all the i's and t's are dotted and crossed, respectively.

so, i/r/t rule of man vs law, depends on the man and at what stage of life, and depends on the law and at what stage of evolution / devolution. the thing about rule of man is that the man has opposition most of the way unless totally wiped out per non-tea-party style of cleansing revolution. the thing about law is that once devolution gets under way, hard to fix because all the prospective rulers benefits from the devolving system.

am unsure, but am willing to learn, and suspect much learning ahead.