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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87591)4/24/2012 10:59:41 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 89467
 
This could qualify as one of the craziest liberal rants ever broadcast on radio.

On Tuesday, libtalker Mike Malloy, whilst shouting about the Trayvon Martin shooting, asked, "How long before there'll be a 'Stand Your Pregnancy' law passed where any woman who starts menstruating can be shot dead because she wore a hoodie when she went out to buy a box of tampons?" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

Read more: newsbusters.org



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87591)4/24/2012 2:37:23 PM
From: longnshort2 Recommendations  Read Replies (10) | Respond to of 89467
 

Subject: Quit trashing President Obama's accomplishments






> >> An impressive list of accomplishments:
> >>
> >>
> >> First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then
> >> deny he was a foreigner.
> >>
> >> First President to have a social security number from a state he has
> >> never lived in.
> >>
> >> First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United
> >> States
> >>
> >> First President to violate the War Powers Act. .
> >>
> >> First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally
> >> obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
> >>
> >> First President to defy a Federal Judge's court order to cease
> >> implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
> >>
> >> First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a
> >> third party.
> >>
> >> First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs
> >> when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.
> >>
> >> First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of
> >> companies to his union supporters.
> >>
> >> First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act
> >> through executive fiat.
> >>
> >> First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the
> >> deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those
> >> with criminal convictions.
> >>
> >> First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of
> >> his political appointees.
> >>
> >> First President to terminate America's ability to put a man in space.
> >>
> >> First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being
> >> present.
> >>
> >> First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law
> >> unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
> >>
> >> First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly
> >> spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
> >>
> >> First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state
> >> it is allowed to locate a factory.
> >>
> >> First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath
> >> to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
> >>
> >> First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been
> >> properly issued years ago.
> >>
> >> First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-Corps for
> >> catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
> >>
> >> First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in
> >> his office. .
> >>
> >> First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half
> >> years in office, 90 to date.
> >>
> >> First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
> >>
> >> First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
> >>
> >> First President to go on multiple global 'apology tours'.
> >>
> >> First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights
> >> and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by
> >> the taxpayer.
> >>
> >> First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his
> >> wife.
> >>
> >> First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year
> >> at taxpayer expense.
> >>
> >> First President to repeat the Holy Quran tells us the early morning
> >> call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound
> >> on earth.
> >>
> >> First President to take a 17 day vacation.
> >>
> >> How is this hope and change working out for you?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP...
> >> I HOPE YOU REMEMBER THIS LIST WHEN YOU VOTE!



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87591)4/24/2012 2:41:26 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 89467
 
British climate alarmist recants his alarmism
Published April 24, 2012 | By Bruce McQuain

Interesting. True confession time I guess.

James Lovelock, the maverick scientist who became a guru to the environmental movement with his “Gaia” theory of the Earth as a single organism, has admitted to being “alarmist” about climate change and says other environmental commentators, such as Al Gore, were too.

Gee, we’d have never guessed.

Lovelock goes into some further detail:

“The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn’t happened,” Lovelock said.

“The climate is doing its usual tricks. There’s nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now,” he said.

“The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time… it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that,” he added.

So in essence, what Lovelock is saying is a) he was wrong about his predictions and b) in actuality they really don’t know what is happening although they have this theory which isn’t panning out the way they thought it would.

Great.

So much for the value of consensus huh?

To his credit, at least, Lovelock admits to the mistake.

Would that the rest of the alarmists had that sort of integrity. Instead, many choose to double down and make themselves even less credible. One wonders if Lovelock’s admission might give some others the courage to recant as well.

Oh, and Lovelock makes an important point:

Asked if he was now a climate skeptic, Lovelock told msnbc.com: “It depends what you mean by a skeptic. I’m not a denier.”

Yeah, neither am I. I’m a skeptic. Climate changes. It has throughout the history of the planet. And we’ve had periods of higher CO2 and higher temperatures in our history, neither of which could be linked to man. Additionally:

He said human-caused carbon dioxide emissions were driving an increase in the global temperature, but added that the effect of the oceans was not well enough understood and could have a key role.

“It (the sea) could make all the difference between a hot age and an ice age,” he said.

I am skeptical of his first statement and much more likely to find credence in the second, i.e. it is the oceans of this world that drive climate change, not man. Additionally, it seems to me that, at least to this point, the skeptic’s theory of low sensitivity of the climate to CO2 seems to be more valid than the alarmists theory of high sensitivity. Had the alarmists been right, as Lovelock points out, we should be frying right now.

Most importantly is his admission that “twelve years is a reasonable time”. It has provided enough time for a trend to develop that debunks the alarmist’s predictions.

Finally Lovelock admits that which has been painfully evident to most skeptics, given the trend of those 12 years – “we don’t know what the climate is doing.”

That is correct. And until we do we need to quit trying to make economy killing policy based on what the evidence is currently telling us is a faulty theory.

Or said another way, we need to use actual science to drive policy, not pseudo-science that supports a political agenda.

I should be able to get consensus on that, no?

~McQ



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87591)4/24/2012 3:46:02 PM
From: Hawkmoon1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
The emotional racists on both extremes want a vigilante war, and they must be exposed as part of the problem so we can move forward in a positive direction.

Finally a statement from you I can concur with..

Still, history demands perspective and deconstruction.

Does it now? Then why stop at 200 years?

Here's some perspective for you.. Horrible as the practice of human slavery is (since it STILL occurs in Africa .. etc), the majority of the male slave population transported to the US would instead have been slain had they not been sold into slavery by their African "brothers". Most slaves were captives of inter-tribal warfare, with the males that could not be sold, killed, and the women integrated into the victorious tribe.

None of my relatives of that era, that I know of, ever owned a slave. They were sharecroppers and tenant farmers to wealthy landowners. And while tenant farmers and sharecroppers were easily replaced when they could no longer act as "debt slaves", physical slaves were valuable property, actually bred by slave owners after the importation of slaves was prohibited.

So why should I feel any more sympathy for African Americans than I do for my own forebears who literally grew up dirt poor up until the 1970's (My father's birth town still has a population of 100)?? Should I blame someone for my ancestor's poverty and demand "justice"?

Ask yourself which ethnicities predated the Blacks in the city ghettos? The Irish, the Jews.. etc.. most of whom stop blaming others for their plight and worked, saved, and educated themselves out of poverty. Same can be said with many Asians and Latins..

Too many people are using the past either as a crutch for their own under-achievement and insecurity, or as a weapon of blame to extort pity, and financial reparations for something few of us hold any blame for..

As for justice.. it should be satisfied between the family members, not sought by non-involved individuals, looking for a reason to validate their own hatred and bigotry.

Bottom line, none of us can change the past... We can only learn from it... And ultimately we can use those lessons to shape the future..



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87591)4/24/2012 3:48:13 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 89467
 
Nationalized education, which is glaringly evident in the United States, is also a tenet of the Marx-Engels communist ideology. In America’s K-12 education system, despotic bureaucrats have largely seized the parents’ rights to choose their school districts, they have imposed certain religious teachings on children, and have decided what can and cannot be consumed during lunch break.



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87591)4/24/2012 3:54:39 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 89467
 
"Cut His Head Off!" Illinois union thugs rail against Wisconsin's Governor


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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87591)4/24/2012 4:43:51 PM
From: joseffy1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Numerous black on white beat-downs going on across the US.


A cursory search limiting the time frame from Feb 26 (date of the Trayvon Killing) forward to now




March 04, 2012 Kansas City KS, Teens set kid on fire for being 'white boy'

Mar 24, 2012 St. Louis MO, St. Louis man recovering after unprovoked attack in Tower Grove -- Kruchowski

Local authority trying to convince everybody that this wasn't about race:

Mar. 27 2012 St. Louis MO, Pete Kruchowski Was Not A Knockout Game Victim, According to Police -- Kruchowski

March 26, 2012 Pittsburg PA, Attack Victims May Have Been Targets Of 'Point 'Em Out, Knock 'Em Out' -- 10 on 1, U of Pitt students attacked

March 29, 2012 Seneca SC, 6 men charged in Seneca beating; hate crime possible -- Applbee's parking lot, taunting, beating

Apr 1, 2012 Palmdale CA, Seven black California teens charged with beating Hispanic youth

April 2, 2012 St. Louis MO, Police investigating mob attack in downtown St. Louis -- 15 on 3

April 05, 2012 East Toledo OH, Trayvon Martin case looms over beating of 78-year-old Ohio man -- Dallas Watt

Apr 5, 2012 Minneapolis MI, Victim describes 'flash mob' attack in downtown Mpls. -- Matthew Collie



April 7, 2012 Sanford FL, Was racial hatred the motive in the Sanford hammer beating? -- carjacked and beaten in woods.

April 10, 2012 Gainsville FL, Gainesville beating case drawing national attention -- 27 year old drunk

April 12, 2012 Grand Rapids MI, Hate crime victim describes racially motivated mob attack in Grand Rapids -- 5 on 1, beaten w/chains, letter to authorities

April 12, 2012 Gainsville FL, 'Trayvon' shouted as group attacks Good Samaritan -- purse snatch



Apr 15, 2012, Baltimore MD, BPD Arrests St. Patrick's Day Assault Suspect Cellphone Video Shows Man Beaten, Stripped, Robbed



April 18, 2012 New York NY, Brutal slaying of teen in Melrose Houses, second murder in nabe in two days, has residents in fear



April 20, 2012 Maywood IL, Suspect: I Beat Up White Man Because I Am Mad About Trayvon Martin Case



April 24, 2012 Mobile AL, Man Beaten By Mob, In Critical Condition

More information:

Matthew Owens: Angry Mob Beats White Man, 'Justice For Trayvon' [VIDEO] No indication that this was about race either...

April 24, 2012 Mobile Police on mob attack: no corroboration yet on allegation of racial motive




To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (87591)4/25/2012 8:53:25 AM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
"In politics, few talents are as richly rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims. Welfare states on both sides of the Atlantic have discovered that largesse to losers does not reduce their hostility to society, but only increases it. Far from producing gratitude, generosity is seen as an admission of guilt, and the reparations as inadequate compensation for injustices – leading to worsening behavior by the recipients."

- Thomas Sowell

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