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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (25657)5/4/2012 10:50:50 AM
From: Brumar892 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
Atheistic regimes have killed 100M people in the past century. That surely must make them one of the most hateful religious movements in history.

And as for keeping people ignorant, just consider that there are still people today who believe that purging society of Christianity will work out good the next time. You can't get anymore ignorant than that.



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (25657)5/4/2012 11:15:25 AM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300
 
"Hating hate and being bigoted against bigotry is paradoxical, and is really just a problem of our language that delivers the genuine haters' their goal of tautological debate and stalemate."

It's far more than word games. It's a logical, moral and philosophical problem. Genuinely hating those you disagree with, makes the person doing it a "GENUINE HATER". There's no way around that. You just want to define everyone who disagrees with you as the "genuine haters" to justify your hatred to ward them, making yourself feel better and morally superior. It also saves you the trouble of having to justify and ground your own philosophical and religious beliefs.

"Certainly not all genocides and hate crimes were religious in nature, but religion has historically done much to keep the masses ignorant, fearful. and non-skeptical of power in human hierarchy."

That's hardly an original position Comrade C.O. . It also says nothing about the veracity of any particular religion.
It's simply a fallacious appeal to Consequences of a Belief. Of course religion has been used and abused to commit all sorts of evil. Of course the idea that certain actions are really morally wrong holds certain difficulties for those who deny evil actually exists, because they end up having to define evil as stuff they don't happen to like. You can't be a moral relativist and at the same time insist that your moral judgements are anything but personal preferences, no matter how long or how loud you yell about it.