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To: Giordano Bruno who wrote (25680)	5/5/2012 1:37:38 AM
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And you are truely not full of it ... there's awe , there's wonder & there's the experienced eye .

To: Giordano Bruno who wrote (25680)	5/5/2012 2:15:46 AM
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There was some footage of a young mother Lemur who's baby could not hold on weakened by drought, the troop presses on without her in search of water . If Lemurs get seperated from their troop for too long when they reconnect that individual may be attacked as a stranger , this is how strong the troupe instincts are & close contact at all times essential . The infant is too weak & lay on the ground & she's trying to lift it but now shes torn between two implulses , to stay with the troupe & safety leave the infant behind . She moves away from her young in direction of the vanishing group then back again to try & lift it once more , then away again several times this is repeated . If the young do not have the strength to cling on because of sickness , injury or drought its most often a death sentence, so after many indecisive moments back & forth she leaves the infant behind . Lemurs are a lower primate but imagine this happening literally millions upon millions of times just in the experience of the higher primates & more intelligent herding groups like elephants that have been known to return to graves of their deceased after some passage of time . Innate base instincts are not something so rote in any creature's DNA that for the more highy evolved nervous sysytems it has become multilayered after 500mil yrs & more into many creature's unique advanced biology .

To: Giordano Bruno who wrote (25680)	5/5/2012 2:51:42 AM
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Are you so detached & devoid of any contribution to the subject at hand that you're unaware of the different kinds of food gathering or hunting techniques unique to certain groups of same species ? Adaptation to different habitats ,temperature zones & food supply , there are many examples of Dolphins that have developed unique hunting techniques from Bottle Nose to Orca's which is based on innate instinct , there's more complexity going on here too . And they teach these techniques to their young and many other examples with Elephants & various tribes of Apes and other primates , all the more advanced mammalians. There's the art of interweaving the discoveries of science that does really come up with many interesting hypothesis . But just simple gaze back in time one easily sees that not just within one species is there experiential modes but interspecies interaction influences upon each other . Life is a dance between the prey & the hunter , many other competing groups that depend on same food supplies or water sources that effect changes & adaptation of behaviors not strictly caused by climate change , natural disaster , drifting continents , migrations , extinction & all the other things that offer change . Think of different species living within proximity to each other , observing each others behaviors & incrementially the wolf or lion that adapts to their prey , so the prey is effected & adapts too. There's the structure of the tribal group , divisions of labor & experience of the hunt , mating rules , maternity & raisng/ guarding, feeding, teaching the young , all inplay . Look at how much we ouselves learned by observing & imitating animals farther back, even worshipping them and here's where branches of science do have the potential to become more of an artform but still based on observable facts & data .

To: Giordano Bruno who wrote (25680)	5/5/2012 2:56:05 AM
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There is the branch of science that delves deeply into animal behavioralism which shows how science itself is an extremely multi~layered complex interweave of disciplines not the simple minded cliche physical "Darwinism" that so strictly & dumbly mouthed here so often by the fundy ax grinders . As if repetition of stupid simple assessments of the whole make it true by dwelling over & over again on mudane & intentionally warped antiquated views. Of course everything can be distilled down into pure simple chemical reactions & innate instincts , but there's also some artform involved with modeling our own observations & putting the multilayered pieces of the picture together especially adding the study of the complexity of ourselves into the mix . We are a creature that has learned by observing many other creatures & interacting with the envirionment for countless millions of years , pretty big canvass really . And there's your "aliens" of course but Lemurs prolly need your help more than aliens even though they don't build pyramids