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To: Dale Baker who wrote (188432)5/6/2012 7:54:18 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541790
 
Well, best I can tell you're slinging away without any data, not knowing what you are talking about. And I'm doing much the same. It's more a question of whose analysis we trust. Until I learn something very different, I'm hanging with Romer, Krugman, Stiglitz, et al. Best I can read from the various books on this period, the choice of a stimulus level was made on political grounds, not on economic grounds. The economic arguments advanced within the Obama administration were from Romer; Summer and the others advanced political arguments.

That's the first point. The second point is that established negotiating strategy of the Obama administration--start by compromising and then compromise from the compromise. None of that is about the best policy; all of it is about what they consider the political possible.

I'm giving you that argument, sort of; but not the policy argument.

As for Japan, best I can read, it never seriously tried the Keynesian path.

But we are at loggerheads, friend. One of those points at which people agree to disagree.



To: Dale Baker who wrote (188432)5/7/2012 1:57:33 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541790
 
People only practice Keynesian economics in the bad times. They NEVER follow the Keynesian prescription for the good times, when it prescribes keeping taxes up and paying down debt incurred during the bad times. So, you could say that Keynesian economics has never really BEEN applied.

To me, Keynesian economics is just common sense. I follow it as an individual.