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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88062)5/6/2012 11:38:30 PM
From: Farmboy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
It's all because he's black, right CO?



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88062)5/6/2012 11:44:28 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
I didn't hear any cry for GW Bush's records, or complaints about records of his life that had mysteriously disappeared.

You didn't? I remember hearing stuff for years related to his NatGuard flight status, as well as his mediocre grades while at Yale, including his participation in "Skull and Bones".

I think they are pertinent to a candidates history, especially if it's becoming an issue to their qualifications to be President.

Personally, there's nothing illegal about a President getting bad grades in College, so I could care less what Obama's grades were.

HOWEVER, it would be a VERY GRIEVOUS CRIME were a President be covering up the fact that they attended College as a foreign student. That would be fraud, as well as evidence that he attempted to maintain ambiguity as to his citizenship.

Btw.. it wasn't just the "birthers" who had doubts about Obama's citizenship status. His Democratic rivals also held such doubts..

politico.com

Therefore, the ORIGINAL "birthers" were the Clintons..

But, of course, political expediency now make it necessary for them to attempt to assert it's a Republican conspiracy.

Hawk



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88062)5/7/2012 11:18:09 AM
From: longnshort2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Bill Ayers is behind fact check

Who Fact Checks FactCheck.org?






Often times, I find myself in arguments with liberal peons and sometimes with blind hardcore conservative nuts. As far as the conservatives go, I pretty much disregard any “fact” (based on faith) that the religious contingent tries to throw my way. As far as the liberals go, I find myself having a hard time just accepting the “facts” that they use as the foundation of their arguments. The reason for my disregarding liberal “facts” is because more often than not, they come from their favorite go-to website, FactCheck.org. That’s cool and all but who the fuck are they? Who has made them the authority? Who the fuck funds them? And most importantly, who the fuck is checking their facts? It’s a fucking website, you may as well just take everything you read on Wikipedia as gospel. Hell, maybe every tweet you read is a short psalm of fact based liberal logic. Maybe every status update on Facebook is an agenda-less piece of liberal law as widely regarded and factual as anything that comes out of the mouths of liberal deities Al Gore and Barack Obama.

On several occasions, I have double checked FactCheck.org after their “facts” have been blindly used by liberals in debates I’ve been a part of. Many of them that I have double checked have been skewed, misrepresented or completely false. Keith Olbermann, probably the biggest douchebag on the planet, has often times referenced information from FactCheck.org and has been found to be wrong. Of course, he’ll deny that and say it’s anti-liberal smear and attack squads that are singling him out and discrediting “facts” because if you don’t agree with his widely distorted and fucked up views, than you are an idiot and a horrible person. Well, not only is Olbermann sucking the FactCheck cock, but so is MSNBC as a whole, well except for Rachel Maddow: she doesn’t like cock (she is a lesbian if you didn’t know, which you probably didn’t because her show gets such shitty ratings).

So what’s the real story behind FactCheck and it’s liberal bias? Who owns it? Well, the answer to that question is the now liberal group, the Annenberg Foundation. The Annenberg Foundation was founded by Walter H. Annenberg, who was at one point a loyal Reagan conservative and diehard Republican. However, Old Walter’s family have changed their tune. Now, the family has close ties to Barack Obama, Bill Ayers and the liberal front in general.

For those who don’t know who Bill Ayers is, do a google search. However, in a nutshell, he led a group of extreme leftists called the Weather Underground (or Weathermen) during the Vietnam War era. His group took credit for bombing the Pentagon, the Capital Building, and the New York City Metro Police Department, as well as over thirty other bombings. Basically, he’s a leftist nutcase psycho fucksack and he’s not in prison.

So how is Obama tied to Ayers and tied to the Annenbergs and thus FactCheck.org?

To start, Ayers was the key founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Chicago public school reform project from 1995 to 2001. Upon its start in 1995, Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Geesh, that alone connects all three. Well, it branches out even more from there.

Ayers co-chaired the organization’s Collaborative, which set the education policies of the Challenge. Oddly enough, Obama was the one who was authorized to delegate to the Collaborative in regards to its programs and projects. In addition to that, Obama often times had to seek advice and assistance from the Ayer’s led Collaborative in regards to the programmatic aspects of grant proposals. Ayers even sat on the same board as Obama as an “ex officio member”. They both also sat together on the board of the CAC’s Governance Committee. Obama and Ayers were two parts of a group of four who were instructed to draft the bylaws that would govern the CAC. Keep in mind that the “A” in CAC is for Annenberg, the owners of FactCheck.org. The funding for Ayer’s projects and those of his cronies was approved by Board Chair, Barack Obama. Together, Ayers and Obama guided money to ACORN. Everyone in America should be familiar with the ACORN bullshit, well unless you’re on Olbermann’s cock or you’re off titty-fucking Chris Matthews.

When analyzing the source of FactCheck.org, one has to also take into account that the Annenberg owned site is ran through the Annenberg School for Communication which is a part of the University of Pennsylvania. UPenn, which I am calling it for abbreviation sake, is a liberally biased institution that has had its fair share of controversies in the past. In recent years, they have had several free speech issues, even though they were awarded the highest possible free speech rating by the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

So, doesn’t all this make FactCheck.org, the Annenberg owned company, at least a little bit biased towards the left? When the issue of Obama’s birth certificate came up, FactCheck.org nipped it in the bud before it had the chance to truly become a scandal. They denied that the birth certificate was even an issue and Obama turned to them to “prove” that his birth certificate was legitimate. Clueless Americans and biased media outlets accepted the “proof” because, well.. it came from a website that no one knows much about. I’ve heard of faith in God, faith in man, faith in one’s self but never have I heard of faith in a mysterious website. I guess people just need something to believe in and Kool-Aid is tasty.

Now I am not a so-called “birther” but I do not trust FactCheck.org’s findings and facts to be authentic. The birth certificate issue is just the tip of the iceberg. Their bias towards the left and especially Obama is obvious to anyone with half a brain cell. They demonize Republican politicians much more so than the Democratic ones. Every questionable thing Obama does is seemingly justified and logical if you reference FactCheck. While the often times common sense approach of libertarians and some in the GOP is stripped down and made to look like pipe dreams and idiotic wishful and naive thinking.

So when it comes down to it, FactCheck.org’s power and legitimacy comes from “We the People”. Perception is king and if you perceive their “facts” to be facts, well then, in you’re mind, they are facts. Unfortunately, the internet has made people lazy. People no longer question things and look for the answers and the facts for themselves. They just do a google search and take either the first thing that pops up or they take the version that best suits their needs or what they already believe or perceive. But anyway, who the fuck am I? This could all be complete bullshit. You’ll never know though unless you look into it for yourself. In the end, depending upon where you stand, the truth could be anything or it could be nothing. I just tell myself that it’s all lies.

So who is fact checking FactCheck.org?