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To: koan who wrote (188959)	5/10/2012 10:42:10 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 544287

Watching Moneyball. Such a smart movie. Marshall Macleun would have loved it. Teh entire baseball community was looking at the wrong variables to provide a winning team. Everyone! And then at the other end there is Palin.

To: koan who wrote (188959)	5/11/2012 8:33:05 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Respond to of 544287

The VN war made and my role in it made me rethink a lot of my assumptions/beliefs as did law school and the subsequent practice of it. Lack of objectivity in both places will kill you. One physically and the other financially--which in this country is the same thing as dying almost. I think it takes something traumatic like a war experience to lift us out of our "imprinting" --which is why I felt that even though my HS classmates had not essentially changed that I had. And if I can transfer this observance over to our debate about Obama's endorsement of "gay marriage" I hope that this was done objectively after contemplation of all the nuisances and variances of it and not out of any ideology--because to be wrong about it in just a few states will end his Presidency. As Sam has observed in his illuminating posts, the November election is about the swing states and at least 4 of these the decision on Gay rights has the portential to shift the balance. They are: Ohio, Penn., VA, and NC. Black Christians in NC (who just spent 2 months hearing their preachers tell them gay marraige was unbiblical) and VA are going to struggle with this issue as will working class Catholics in Ohio and Pa--especially the rural parts. These states were close prior to Obama's decision. Just a 5% percent shift in the sentiment in those groups could shift the balance of electoral power. Maybe the WH contemplated all this before it "came out", but it appeared to be done without much reflection of the political landscape in the states I mentioned. I'm not privy to the facts they had, but I hope they took a real clear look at the landscape before they acted. With the majority of the Supreme Court's votes hanging on the Presidential election I'm sure one can appreciate the consequences of making this shift in strategy without having seen the field for what it is. Message #188959 from koan at 5/10/2012 10:37:43 PM <<I went to my 41st high school reunion. First time I had been back. I picked right up talking to the people I knew. We had changed physically, but basically they were the same people. I agree that most of us are set by the end of HS if not sooner. >> Here is the irony (good irony) about your post. You are one of the more doggedly malleable posters on SI. You seem to live with your experiences, like the rest of us, but I can see you wonder. You keep peeking around the corner. That is rare.