To: Hank Scorpio who wrote (486779 ) 5/12/2012 2:20:39 AM From: Maurice Winn 2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793958 Your point was that Big Oil's "dialogue" [whatever that means] doesn't like the idea of umpteen miles per gallon, and fortunately for Big Oil, the public doesn't know about the possible fancy formulation which would do the magical thermodynamics which would do away with "alt e". Back in the day, my job was such fancy formulations [among other things]. The line I was pushing was that dirty great transcontinental trucks should run on cheap heavy diesel grot, while dinky little city commuter cars should run on high cetane number wonderful stuff. The European Commission wanted one diesel for everyone in Europe to a common standard specification. We had a meeting with them to try to disabuse them of such wacky "thinking" but of course Big Brother dislikes that niggly individualistic stuff. They did accept that it's very cold in Sweden in winter and very hot in Spain in summer, and city cars are different from heavy trucks and fishing boats, so perhaps a common specification wouldn't be so good after all. Big Oil is actually quite happy to produce good quality fuels to sell for a premium margin. My 98 unleaded achieved the same thing for gasoline as I wanted to do for diesel. In Europe [and NZ] they were going to have a single 95 octane unleaded petrol. I pushed for and got a high quality fuel and a 91 octane. There's "Eurograde" too. I admit I go off on tangents, embellish, and generally rant, but the point was pretty simple. If that still misses your point, perhaps you could elucidate rather than psychoanalyze. Mqurice PS: Why do Americans love the remote control psychoanalysis? "Projection" is a very fashionable accusation [among many other remote control psychoanalysis cliches]. It seems to be that if they psychoanalyze [or are the first to say "RACIST!!"] they think they win the argument without reasoning the actual argument. I think it's because they have father identity formation issues with sibling displacement projection leading to cognitive dissonance with predilective disassociative ambiguation. If they could avoid that, they could even get up to 100 miles per litre if Big Oil and Obama would just get out of the way.