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To: Ali Chen who wrote (26161)11/25/1997 1:26:00 PM
From: Patient Engineer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1584229
 
Ali, Re: LSI's G11 process

This is a .25 micron drawn process. Their claim for .18 micron is definitely for Leff. LSI is at least 2 years behind Intel and AMD in process technology. LSI is still using i-line steppers and isn't even close to producing a true .18 micron process. LSI has announced that they are cutting back on capital spending, so if anything they are falling farther behind, not catching up.

There is definitely a pecking order in the semiconductor industry when it comes to process. IBM is on top, followed closely by Intel. AMD is rising fast, but still clearly behind Intel. NEC and a few others are in the same pack with AMD. LSI, VLSI and most of the Far East fabs are a definite notch lower.

Not sure what this has to do with AMD however.



To: Ali Chen who wrote (26161)11/25/1997 8:41:00 PM
From: Yousef  Respond to of 1584229
 
Ali,

Re: "Now you are trashing the LSI process by mentioning only 2.5V ..."

Ali, I'm not trashing LSI's process ... just stating the facts. The reason
I didn't mention their 1.8V process is because this option is used for
low power and will also give much lower performance. I'm glad to see
that Patient Engineer agrees will my "analysis". BTW, I agree with
PE's ranking of IC process development by company.

Please do not take my comments so personally, Ali ... I am just stating
the facts.

Make It So,
Yousef


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