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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88291)	5/16/2012 1:00:08 PM
From: joseffy	Respond to of 89467

Cautious--the typical lefty--can't admit he was WRONG. LOL

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88291)	5/16/2012 1:13:44 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

It's not a crime to suspect a young black guy wandering slowly through a neighborhood at night in the rain when most local robberies are commited by young black guys. Profiling, stalking ie watching and even following ... is legal. It's what crime watch groups DO by definition. It's even legal for liberals to profile Zimmerman as a white racist who disobeyed a police order in order to chase down, attack and murder a harmless black child. Though it's not rational given the evidence. Zimmerman's record of "losing control" is exaggerated and may be entirely mythical. One incident some years before involve him shoving (once) an undercover officer he thought was assaulting an underage friend of his in a bar. Zimmerman being told 'we don't need you to do that' .. follow Martin .... isn't an order. And besides it seems Zimmerman turned around and was returning to his vehilcle after getting that message. He was only 35 yards from his vehicle when he was assaulted. As for being self appointed, ALL neighborhood crime watchers are volunteers ... aka self-appointed. His neighborhood newsletter referred to him as the captain of the neighborhood watch, meaning his participation was well known and recognized. And having a loaded gun on him seems to have been a prudent move on his part. Martin had a right to stand his ground against such a threat, that included the deadly weapon that ultimately cost him his life -- he obviously did not. react with enough of his own force to stop Zimmerman. There's no evidence Zimmerman constituted ANY kind of threat to Martin. There's NO evidence he assaulted Martin, however there is evidence Martin assaulted Zimmerman. 'Standing your ground' doesn't mean attacking someone who isn't attacking you. I'm not blind to the prosecution case ... I simply don't see a case other than a witch hunt designed to drum up racial division. IMO, you profile the Trayvon Martins of the world, too. So do you. The very fact that you think blacks are too dangerous to be followed or watched tells what you think of them. Sooner or later someone will come for you, if you allow these things vigilante acts to happen. I get it. You're saying its people like me who make it dangerous for you by provoking those dangerous blacks. If every white was a fearful liberal, blacks wouldn't be so dangerous.