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To: Steady_on who wrote (24674)	5/19/2012 6:10:16 AM
From: arvitar	Respond to of 53574

A "valid number", and yet JBI loses over $1 MILLION/month. (wow...just wow...)

To: Steady_on who wrote (24674)	5/19/2012 8:06:11 AM
From: SteveF	Respond to of 53574

Do you think this latest move will satisfy the SEC?

To: Steady_on who wrote (24674)	5/20/2012 1:14:26 AM
From: 1Coffeehound	Respond to of 53574

edit eom

To: Steady_on who wrote (24674)	5/20/2012 1:15:04 AM
From: 1Coffeehound	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 53574

No dishonesty involved. I have satisfied myself that is a valid number. I have posted calculations on the boards that support that conclusion several times. So far no one has posted calculations that show anything different. The only calculations you've posted are based on rumored numbers yet you seem to present your conclusion as though it is fact. Where is the honesty in that tactic?

To: Steady_on who wrote (24674)	5/20/2012 3:08:18 AM
From: PaperProphet	Respond to of 53574

" So far no one has posted calculations that show anything different." How do you like that...not even Mr. Bordynuik has posted any numbers which support his claims. It's good that we have Steady_on to provide baseless numbers to support Mr. Bordynuik's baseless claims. That's the game here...Mr. Bordynuik puts out misleading and often downright fake information and his supporters dutifully pull out their calculators and start doing math. No doubt that the only reason that the 10-Q's don't show $2m in revenues from pyrolyzing plastic is that Mr. Bordynuik currently doesn't feel he can slide that past the SEC without facing jail time. That's why we get $230k in revenues which only suggestively came from selling pyrolyzed plastic to actual, unaffiliated customers but no useful details. A discerning investor would wonder why Mr. Bordynuik spends all his time dancing around suggestions that his catalyst makes pyrolysis profitable rather than being clear. If I had a magical catalyst that allowed me to make diesel from garbage for a cost of less than $0.25/gallon, I would be shouting it from the rooftops and making sure everyone knew what I had accomplished. That would help everyone from shareholders to other stakeholders. Only a swindler would obfuscate and choose vague wording now where he may have been emboldened prior to having the SEC investigate him for fraud. The SEC can't do a thing to Mr. Bordynuik if he tells the truth...it's only his lying that would be giving him pause. That would certainly be a reason why Mr. Bordynuik has clammed up about his cost and price claims for probably two years now.