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To: LindyBill who wrote (487940)5/21/2012 6:06:30 AM
From: unclewest2 Recommendations  Respond to of 794281
 
Once we redefined our mission in 1951 as one more limited, we clearly won in Korea by preserving the South.

Let's take a look at that -
The Korean War began on June 25, 1950.
Our original purpose was to rollback communism from the entire Korean peninsula. MacArthur led us all the way to the Yalu river.

The Chinese were having none of that. They were not going to allow US Forces to stare into China across the Yalu River. They attacked and slaughtered 36,000 American soldiers. We retreated and retreated and retreated all the way to the Pusan perimeter.

Then we pushed 1/2 way back to the 38th parallel. The Chinese stopped because they had solidly established the border buffer they wanted.

This is another view.

"When 100,000 enemy troops invaded Korea on June 25, 1950, South Koreans could not withstand the onslaught. The natives of South Korea came very close to losing sovereignty in their country. American troops stationed in Japan were rushed to Korea to help halt the enemy invasion of South Korea. These U.S. soldiers, followed by U.S. Marines, were sent into the fray in order to stop the entire peninsula from being captured by Communist forces. With great courage and much human sacrifice, American veterans foiled the invasion. Because American veterans tenaciously held on to the toehold known as the Pusan Perimeter, South Korea is free today. - They held!!The story of the Pusan Perimeter is simultaneously an American disgrace and an American triumph. The triumph is that, on very short notice, against a numerically-superior, highly-trained, and well-supplied enemy, American veterans came to the rescue of South Koreans and stopped Communist forces from taking over the entire peninsula. The disgrace rests squarely on the shoulders of American politicians who sent our young men into battle with insufficient training, insufficient weapons, insufficient clothing, insufficient food, and insufficient information regarding the enemy that they were ordered to face in battle."

Up until then, it seems American generals would call anything, less than a 100% loss, a victory and a triumph.
In Vietnam they extended that description to a include a 100% loss.

Our presidents and generals luv those 2 words. I didn't hear victory and triumph when I was an NCO on an A team. But back then they didn't let us near many generals or maybe it was vice versa. After OCS, I heard them often.

I was in the audience at Ft Benning in fall of 1967 when LBJ gave his "I see a light at the end of the tunnel" speech. That was about 6 months before he quit. Maybe everyone misunderstood just what light he saw and where the tunnel he was looking through was located

I thought we came from different planets.
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