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To: longnshort who wrote (26885)	6/7/2012 2:36:50 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Good find, The Grand Design by Stephen Hawkings : "This may all finally explain the mystery of the universe's creation without recourse to a divine creator. This is an amazingly concise, clear, and intriguing overview of where we stand when it comes to divining the secrets of the universe" There is empty space & then there's you adding even more nothingness to what is already virtually 98% empty space...good job !

To: longnshort who wrote (26885)	6/7/2012 6:33:29 PM
From: Solon	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

These quantum appearances exist in something. They exist in all the space and time and energy and matter that exist anywhere and anywhen. Any one of billions of universes (according to some theorists) can "not exist" and then exist--(just as you did)! Just as you went from nothing to something. But even though you were once nothing, the event of your being was able to occur because of the existence of energies, forces, space, time, matter, gravity, anti-matter--and who knows what else. So when Hawking claims that our universe jumped into existence out of "nothing" as one of billions (some amenable to life and some not), it does not mean what some people think. Hawking makes it clear he does not believe in God. He believes reality is quanta. Again, Hawking does not believe in God, so if you think Hawking believes there was ever an ultimate and absolute "nothing" which turned into something (which he doesn't), then you would need to admit that if his science is correct and if it leads him to deny a god and if he truly meant that "no thing" is the ultimate ground (I mean non-ground) of all universes, that he has obviated any further need to speculate about the possible existence of a god! All down the drain! If science can explain how something can come from nothing, then we do not require superstition to stupidify it. But again, Science does not believe in any ultimate nothing and neither does Hawking. He believes that things (such as universes) can be created more or less instantaneously--but only because quanta and gravity forces already exist. Of course, I am not opposed to speculation about gods or powerful star creatures--only to those who show their ass, or drown their children, or act like primitive barbarians completely ignorant of science, medicine, etc.